[VOTE] Masterswiper vs Ryan!!

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  1. ryan1554

    ryan1554 Bboy Ryan

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    First to receive 3 votes wins!

    Masterswiper round 1

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    Ryan Round 1

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    Masterswiper Round 2

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    Ryan Round 2

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    Please try to vote with reasons!!! :D
    Good luck!
  2. BboyBiscuits

    BboyBiscuits Be water my friend

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    F - foundation (musicality, finesse), O - originality (creativity, concepts), D - dynamics (difficulty), E - execution (technique, rhythm), B - battle (confidence, responding)

    R1:
    Masterswiper - tops are pretty awkward and repetitive. and most importantly, off beat. master swipes were pretty good. your footwork is really low to the ground, try to get on your fingertips or inner knuckles, but your footwork concepts were okay. headspin took a little long to get into, and you clearly crashed. wasn't digging the knee spin

    F - 2
    O - 3
    D - 4
    E - 2
    B - 3

    Ryan - tops are a little offbeat, but not too bad. flare to mill is impressive but not clean, handglide to elbow freeze was pretty nice plus it was on beat so props. responded to his power with your own power so nice response.

    F - 3
    O - 3
    D - 5
    E - 3
    B - 4

    R2
    Masterswiper - tops more on beat this time, but that side step is still incredibly awkward. stay with the music (it's not even a fast beat) and use your arms more. don't be so jerky with your legs. more footwork, not bad but you're off beat at times, like with your CC's. swipe wasn't very good. your flow is pretty inconsistent this round, you keep switching speeds. good turtles, nice job responding with more power. the way you ended halfway through that swipe was pretty nice.

    F - 3
    O - 3
    D - 4
    E - 3
    B - 4

    Ryan - tops were on beat this time. switching them up, I like it. looks like you slipped a little though. your move to begin was pretty sick, though I feel like I've seen that from Taisuke before...


    at 0:58. could be coincidence, but even the hand movement was the same.

    repeated mills. slipped on the footwork. your flow was pretty good until the end. missed the thread then did some bad hand hops. and fell. would be a really good round if you executed better.

    F - 3
    O - 2
    D - 4
    E - 2
    B - 3

    overall
    F: Masterswiper 5 - 6 Ryan
    O: Masterswiper 6 - 5 Ryan
    D: Masterswiper 8 - 9 Ryan
    E: Masterswiper 5 - 5 Ryan
    B: Masterswiper 7 - 7 Ryan

    Ryan wins foundation and dynamics and wins the battle. overall though, both of you got low scores for execution and dynamics. Masterswiper you could have won if your tops and footwork were on beat. and either of you could have run away with a win if you guys just stayed clean and flowed well. anyway, good battle to both of you, hope this long ass critique helps. peace
  3. masterswiper

    masterswiper Sunny J

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    Thanks, I appreciate it. I'll work on it.
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    masterswiper Sunny J

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    btw I still can't do windmills bc my feet hit the ground on restab... only power i can really do is swipes and turtles... headspins im still working on.
    so believe me, I know I have a lot of work to do.
    thanks again for taking ur time to write that long comment :)
  5. BboyBiscuits

    BboyBiscuits Be water my friend

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    still better than me. I have this disease where I train really hard for a powermove for 2 days then forget it about for months
  6. ryan1554

    ryan1554 Bboy Ryan

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    HAHAHAHA!! Damn caught me! I was hoping no one would notice my taunt was ripped off from taisuke LOL!!!! Anyways thanks!
  7. BboyBiscuits

    BboyBiscuits Be water my friend

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    it was pretty dope but remember man, don't bite. I would've given you a 1 in originality but I wasn't sure if it was coincidence or not haha
  8. ryan1554

    ryan1554 Bboy Ryan

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    okay so Ryan 1 - 0 Masterswiper...
    Anyone else gonna vote?
  9. Flamewave

    Flamewave Bboy FlameWave

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    Both of your sets are kinda choppy.

    Ryan won.
  10. Dayze

    Dayze call me spook

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    um i kind of suck so take this with a grain of salt. actually i really suck.

    make that two grains.

    i would say ryan, overall. in your first set i would have like to see you do more footwork than just repeating a 6 step. in your second set though you should have just stuck that rollback and ended the set there. botching the thread and handhops was mayor menos puntos. dont "reset" your set, just finish strong and then done.

    then the bite, that you knowingly did. menos puntos again. never ever bite, unless you're like battle the person and you want to call them out or something.

    this battle was up in the air, like any one of you guys had the potential to beat eachother, just i felt ryan was better overall.

    to ms, remember to use inner knuckles, be confident, and keep your feet under your butt during footwork. really feel the music and hit the beat. pick up your feet, etc. blah blah blah (you know what i mean :) )

    alright, any more advice and this post would be too salty to take, so ill shut up now :)
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    masterswiper Sunny J

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    Dayze it doesn't matter how good u are u still have the right to vote and say whose sets u liked better.
    But yeah, now I've taken yours and everyone else's advice and I'm working on hitting the beats.
    The thing is, I can't do windmills; so whenever someone uses that in a battle against me, it's basically an automatic win

    Anyways Ryan, that's 3 votes. You won 3/3. Nice job.
  12. Dayze

    Dayze call me spook

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    nah man. if someone throws windmills at you u could use the turtles that u used.
    also bro, if you hit the beats wit your footwork and are crisp mills cant touch that.
    remember to like overexaggerate moves and be like really sharp on your footwork. like i said, to someone who doesnt kno bboying they would think ryan smoked you because "he did the thing when he spins on his back omg broooooo" but for real the battle was up for grabs. remember, any of yall got the potential to beat eachother.
  13. BboyBiscuits

    BboyBiscuits Be water my friend

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    no, just never bite. never. not even to call out, that's even more disrespect. taunt by imitating the move, don't actually use it in a set

    mills didn't win the battle for Ryan. I can't do mills for shit, so what? 30% of famous bboys don't do mills. they can, but don't. so what? Redfoot could smoke any Cico or Lil Kev. I don't care if he has mills or not, if you're on beat and have a more dynamic style I'll give you the win. I'm sorry, but if you think mills are the deal-breaker in a battle then you have to learn the dance more. Ivan: "it's not the move, it's the groove"
  14. Dayze

    Dayze call me spook

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    sorry dude i wasnt very clear. the only time "biting" is allowed in my book is say if someone does like and airchair thread or something and everyone goes crazy, and you go in and do a airchair thread and add on to "top" the move, u get me?

    i didnt mean like take someones move and use it in your set, like show them and the crowd ay i can do that too
  15. Kaiasian

    Kaiasian Special K

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    That's called responding.
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    olivasliva New Member

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    Masterswiper Round 2
    0:12-0:17 nice move,work on that one get it perfect..
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    masterswiper Sunny J

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    lol guys okay ur right i could still beat Ryan if I were more on beat and stuff. But the good news is my windmills r progressing! Haha i can finally do the restab and re-collapse, so now I pretty much have 1 windmill. Now I'm working on multiple. (my latest mill is on the videos page of bboy.org)

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