[Bboy Phenom]

Originally Posted by giovannile07 I'm pretty sure he was joking.

Lolz read his next post... i dont think he was.

[NRAdam]

I'm a crybaby.
HEhe

[Zodiak Stizo]

Interesting, other dance styles have dancers that make money from dancing because DANCING is their profession. It seems to me that people do not want bboying to attain the level of a recognized show dance style because not everyone could do it, even though ballet has been around for ages and not everyone can do it....but I guess bboying must be special in some way. Hip hop dancers dance for profession. Which ones get hired, the best, so I guess with hip hop dancers one needs skill, but apparently people say that bboying for money is selling out, that must mean the a bboy does not need to be good to get money from it, in other words compared to other dances, including hip hop[coreography], bboyin is so easy it should not done for money or it is being exploited. Bboys that say bboyin for money is selling out remind me of Black Americans that would not work low level jobs to save money for a real living because it is "below them." Bboying is picking up, but not everybody picking it up wants to or can do it as a profession. Some one tried saying bboyin was like the most complicated and expressful dance, well I would disagree, hip hop [coreography] is it. In bboyin there's a limit to outside influneces. In hip hop coreography there is not. In fact it includes any and almost every other dance style, including bboying, popping, but not locking.

People who complain to me show me that when bboying is recognized, and it is not, but still is in a way, you will be scared because people who are hungry will do it because they have something to prove and do it because that is their lively hood. To make money off dancing you are considered professional, not the necessarily the professional bboys think of when someone wins comps, but the professional in the business world. Someone who is considered professional probably put a lot of work to being an authority in their profession. Most people on this site are kids. There's no reason to angry, all I can say is grow up, experience what people do to even get paid to dance, then come complain about people's nescience or bboys "sellin out"


p.s. Can the admin freakin put bboy, bboyin, bboying, breakin in this site's word dictionary so they come up as valid terms....


peace rocks

[Fatalz]

Originally Posted by BboyPoundO This is all just my opinion, because I belive most of this may be true. Now the martial arts dance where they almost kick each other may take the same amount of these skills. There are many dance forms out there that will be incredibly hard to learn, but Bboying covers so many of all of the dancing critiques. And for anybody who looks at what I type and gets really offended please, THIS IS ONLY MY OPINION. I'M NOT GOD. its not fact.

Yeah dude, I know its your opinion, and I totally understand that but that's like saying "Brown's Chicken is the crunchiest and juiciest fried chicken there is" when you never even truly tried Popeye's

[Rath]

B-boys on SYTYCD are not selling out or anything of the sort. They're making a name for themselves, and if you understand the aim of the show it's to show the versatility of dancers.

Hok from last season was my favourite dancer (Dom and Sara too, but Hok was the best for me) because he showed that b-boys could DANCE. I don't know if you guys saw the Hummingbird piece by Wade Robson which involved him and a contemporary dancer, but he used his b-boying by pulling off moves that only a b-boy could do...and the piece was just beautiful, and I'm trying my best not to sound gay. LOL.

You know what else? I actually think these judges KNOW what they're talking about. Sure they called something a windmill when it was an airflare, but you know what she said..."I like the b-boy moves you did". She said b-boy! I was like...oh snap, you didn't call him a breakdancer? He corrected her use of 'windmill' and she seemed happy with being corrected. B-boying is being recognised as a bone fide dance that is no longer in its infancy and is not just some passing fad, and I dig that SYTYCD doesn't have crappy judges like Lil Mama pretending to know what they're talking about when it comes to b-boying.

As for your poll...the hustle is the greatest dance ever, didn't you know?

[CTracker]

OK, let me make something clear to some of you ignorant **** in here.

Every dance has it's hard points.

Ballet focuses on killer technique and muscle control
Contemporary focuses on fluent movement, muscle control, ground contact.
Lyrical Jazz combines all of the above.

I dance 30 hours a week, both for school, myself, and breaking.

Anyone that says breaking is the hardest is just an ignorant fool.
Go try doing ballet for a week, we'll see if your knees last for half the week if you aren't aware of your muscles.

[BboyPoundO]

wow. wow. ow. Thats why I love this forum. I came here to learn, and most people here have a more logical point of veiw than me. Jus saying though, bboyin is the dopest (THX vicvalswift.)

But bboyin has some of the most hard points in dancing. Technique, control, clarity, fluidity (as it may be your style,) "style," Physical fitness, balance, flexibility, mentalilty, and it brings with it confidence that you have acheived something. As other dances may only have a fraction of these"hard points."

And as for you CTracker.
I never said bboying was THE hardest. I said, that it had some of the hardest moves to learn, and took the hardest training, the most mentalilty, perserverance, originality, and observation. I admit maybe other dances equal in the training, perserverance, and mentalilty department, but it DOES have some of the hardest moves to learn, especially when you make them up. And I dont care what anybody else says, bboyin has the most Freedom. Which is why it is now my fav. dance. Because like Ronnie said, Bboyin is the most free form of dance. There isn't right or a wrong way to do it, you know you could always innovate, you could always be yourself. Pop locking and others like it do have the same aspects of FREEDOM. But as for me, bboyin tops the list. Go ahead and yell at me for this, (until somebody shows me a new dance style that has more Freedom.

[Adrxone]

lol @ term poplocking

[SourFlava]

lol ya, I wave into my US points

[CTracker]

OK, as for the freedom part I have to agree.

As for the hardest moves, I don't cause that's also something I thought before I had Ballet, Jazz and Contemporary as a daily subject at school.
Breakin' does have hard moves, yes. But for every move in breakin' you can find an equivalent in difficulty in the above dance styles.
I've only done 1 year of Ballet now and I haven't even learned 1/50 of all the techniques yet.
Just to gave you a small example.
When you do a Sauté (jump) you get pointed out how you have to land and how you have to jump.
You have to point your feet when you jump, you have to keep your abs tight, you need to keep your shoulders low at all times, you must look up (as if you're stuck up) at all times. All these things have to be done during just 1 jump. A simple jump. And I didn't even start about the arm movement and placement of the arms.

Of course it all has it's reasons, to prevent you from hurting yourself seriously when you get to more difficult types of jumps. But just learning all those small things and keeping it all together is hard enough on it's own.

And if you don't do it correctly, you will feel it in your joints in a most unpleasant way.

Which is why I say now that the hardest dance doesn't exist unless you combine every single dance in the world into 1 single form.

p.s. I did read your post, but saying bboying has some of the hardest moves to learn without actually having done any other dance forms (to my knowledge), is ignorant in my eyes.

[BboyPoundO]

Ctracker, I agree with what youve just said, (this is a response to your, "P.S",) but what defines a move as being "hard," shouldn't be called out by other dance styles. Threaded airchairs are hard, but, saying their not hard compared to a really difficult ballet move doesnt cross out the fact they're hard. So even if i did other dance styles, i could still say bboying has some of the hardest moves.

[NRAdam]

What we need here is someone who can tell the final answer to this thread.

What we need is ANUBIS2002........................................ ..........

Where the fuck is he. I miss him like ever. He was the dopest, sensible bboy i knew in this site.

Peace. Long live anubis

[benjaminlibl]

Originally Posted by Fatalz Yeah dude, I know its your opinion, and I totally understand that but that's like saying "Brown's Chicken is the crunchiest and juiciest fried chicken there is" when you never even truly tried Popeye's

I've never tried Brown's chicken but Popeye's is the pwnage.

That seems to be what people here are implying.

If you're so set on an idea that you won't change your opinion on how bboying is the hardest, most dominant dance, then don't bother asking other people their opinions.

And until you define what freedom means to you, I can't agree with your statement. I don't believe that you can't innovate in other dances, or be yourself. I think that's what all dance styles are about. Exploring different ways to do something.