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Hip Hop Dancing - 05-20-2008, 03:47 AM

What do you think of it?

Personally, I don't really like it since they're just routines and it seems like you don't have much freedom to do anything. Aside from that, it doesn't look that appealing either.
But that's just me, no offense to anyone.
 

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Re: Hip Hop Dance - 05-20-2008, 03:59 AM

Yoz, Initially, I felt Hip Hop Dance is more like a stage act. But after some involvements in it. I felt that it is dope if I were to learn some of it, a team choreographed dance or somethng (although indeed it is a lil restricting as it is already scripted, unlike Bboying, which allows us to express ourselves much more through Toprocks, Freezes, Flares, etc... ... and even merge some otha dance elements into a battle, thus making the showcase much more in variety...). I wanna explore more dance forms out there in tha streetz. Thus, I have recently gone for a Hip Hop Audition and got into tha club. However, I will remain loyal to Bboying... ...


What I felt about Hip Hop Dance and Breakdance (From my exposure and experience) is that the difference is like Hip Hop Music. There are mainstream Hip Hop as well as Underground/Old School Hip Hop. Although belonging to the same type of genre, they are sub-classified due to the popularity of the music. Mainstream Hip Hop tunes are more catchy, thus attracting more people (from all walks of life) to listen to it, leaving old school Hip Hop 'isolated' to the masses. So is the case for Hip Hop Dance. ALSO! Hip Hop requires some 'muscle flexibility' in a routine and lotsa energy to bring out the best in the visual. While Breakdancing could be more 'laidback', yet retaining its 'visually stunning' moves.


(Pardon me for my confusing explanation. Hope Yal able to catch what Im Saying though ^^)

P.S. But there is something I felt uneasy. That is there are People (Hip Hop Dancers) who do not recognize Breakdance as a form of dance AT ALL. that mentality sucks. Imma Haterz for that sorta people. Wonder any other Bboys/Bgirls have heard about similar comments about Breakin'?
 

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05-20-2008, 04:06 AM

Originally Posted by Nephoros View Post
P.S. But there is something I felt uneasy. That is there are People (Hip Hop Dancers) who do not recognize Breakdance as a form of dance AT ALL. that mentality sucks. Imma Haterz for that sorta people. Wonder any other Bboys/Bgirls have heard about similar comments about Breakin'?
Exactly.. Everyone always tells my friends and me to do the Soulja Boy or the "Low" dance.. and some other shit lol..

No offense to any fans, but Soulja Boy can suck it. xD
 

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05-20-2008, 04:39 AM

Originally Posted by Nephoros View Post
Yoz, Initially, I felt Hip Hop Dance is more like a stage act. But after some involvements in it. I felt that it is dope if I were to learn some of it, a team choreographed dance or somethng (although indeed it is a lil restricting as it is already scripted, unlike Bboying, which allows us to express ourselves much more through Toprocks, Freezes, Flares, etc... ... and even merge some otha dance elements into a battle, thus making the showcase much more in variety...). I wanna explore more dance forms out there in tha streetz. Thus, I have recently gone for a Hip Hop Audition and got into tha club. However, I will remain loyal to Bboying... ...


What I felt about Hip Hop Dance and Breakdance (From my exposure and experience) is that the difference is like Hip Hop Music. There are mainstream Hip Hop as well as Underground/Old School Hip Hop. Although belonging to the same type of genre, they are sub-classified due to the popularity of the music. Mainstream Hip Hop tunes are more catchy, thus attracting more people (from all walks of life) to listen to it, leaving old school Hip Hop 'isolated' to the masses. So is the case for Hip Hop Dance. ALSO! Hip Hop requires some 'muscle flexibility' in a routine and lotsa energy to bring out the best in the visual. While Breakdancing could be more 'laidback', yet retaining its 'visually stunning' moves.


(Pardon me for my confusing explanation. Hope Yal able to catch what Im Saying though ^^)

P.S. But there is something I felt uneasy. That is there are People (Hip Hop Dancers) who do not recognize Breakdance as a form of dance AT ALL. that mentality sucks. Imma Haterz for that sorta people. Wonder any other Bboys/Bgirls have heard about similar comments about Breakin'?
Nice.
And we shouldn't hate on other forms of dance. :P
 

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05-20-2008, 05:29 AM

From what I've seen people that I know who have taken Hip-hop dance classes seem to be way less knowledgeable about what Hip-hop is really like my friend took Hip-hop classes I don't think he even knows the four original elements of Hip-hop. I also said you could clap when you're dancing like for Locking and he said in his Hip-hop class no clapping in any dance whatsoever and that it won't work. So, I think Hip-hop classes sort of don't give you the same experience as real Hip-hop dances give from what I've seen. Something like that I guess.

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05-20-2008, 05:52 AM

While the average Hip Hop dancing dude/chick probably won't generally understand the elements of Hip Hop, if someone's been doing it for a while and they're GOOD chances are they'll know a thing or two. My first ever style (if you don't count MJ-dancing lol) was Hip Hop, and it may seem like just choreographed dancing which allows no freedom...well, in a way it's true and in a way it isn't.

It's choreographed, no d'uh. But it's what you do with the choreography that makes it count. Look at Jabbawockeez + Kaba Modern, the stuff isn't easy. It's not just about doing the moves that were choreographed, it's about putting your soul and energy behind everything so you make it your own. And I would say it's a completely different dance to b-boying 'coz it's not an individual style, I don't think it's any such individual 'hip hop' style which you could freestyle to...that's just not what it is. It's a group thing. Especially when you dance with other high level hip hop dancers it feels hella cool to bust out a well-choreographed and visually stunning piece.

To sum it up, B-boying is an individual style first and foremost, 'Hip Hop' dancing is a group thing. B-boying in a crew becomes a group thing but in a different way, it's more "raw" and soulful whereas Hip Hop is more about sharp solid movements and clean shapes.

Yeah, I love 'em both.

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05-20-2008, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by giovannile07 View Post
From what I've seen people that I know who have taken Hip-hop dance classes seem to be way less knowledgeable about what Hip-hop is really like my friend took Hip-hop classes I don't think he even knows the four original elements of Hip-hop. I also said you could clap when you're dancing like for Locking and he said in his Hip-hop class no clapping in any dance whatsoever and that it won't work. So, I think Hip-hop classes sort of don't give you the same experience as real Hip-hop dances give from what I've seen. Something like that I guess.
Blech. Times have changed. ]:
 

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05-20-2008, 09:32 PM

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05-22-2008, 10:14 PM

I AGREE Totally. That's what Hip Hop nowadays is all about. And to add on, people were mesmerized by the "Step Up 2" and "Stomp The Yard" thingy, thus they attempt to try out Hip Hop dance by taking up courses and stuffs but not even research on its roots, why is the technique called "Isolation" and etc... ... Just pure wannabes. I believe if there are more movies like "You Got Served" and are influential movies, more and more people will try to flock in to learn Bboying, without sufficient understanding on it, plainly to learn the moves used by the Lead Actor or something.


But no matter what, anyone, ANYone, who actually keen to learn Hip Hop dance and Bboying are most welcome. Provided they really go and learn its history and stuffs and must be serious in what they are learning. Only then, a REAL dancer will emerge within. =D
 

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05-22-2008, 11:07 PM

what about expression crew?

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