[dbaznxdragon]

To dance, one must express their self to music...

- Every person has a unique dancing style (or unique way of dancing) that is most natural to their body.
- Every dancer has an awareness of musicality (or unique way of reading music) that is most natural to their dancing style.

The goal of every dancer is to express their emotions/attitude/intent/reasons/etc. (all mentally processed) in the physical form they desire while being "perfectly" synchronized state with music.

Music is organized sound to one's liking:
(in this case: express = to convert music's attitude to your physical style)

1) If you can predict and express a sound every time it's heard, then you have mastered that sound.
2) If you can predict and express an instrument every time it's heard, then you have mastered that instrument.
3) If you can predict and express a song every time it's heard, then you have mastered that song.

If you can predict any and every sound played in a song, define that sound's physical form in your movement, and are able to 'beat hit'/'beat ride' between instruments at will, and (most importantly) NOT fuck up your set then you're a good, respectable, aware bboy who knows how to dance.

(Comments/Questions/Opinions)?

[Mr.Bboy]

this is a very important part of the dance..

actually i think it's THE MOST important part of this dance..


so in this case, lets say someone thinks they have style/self expression..

but then as years pass by and they get more into the music, they change..

we all have our own unique style but it changes doesn't it?

[dbaznxdragon]

Originally Posted by Mr.Bboy

this is a very important part of the dance..

actually i think it's THE MOST important part of this dance..


so in this case, lets say someone thinks they have style/self expression..

but then as years pass by and they get more into the music, they change..

we all have our own unique style but it changes doesn't it?

but remember this...you're never changing INTO some style you don't know...

your changing your style into something more efficient, more natural to you. over time you gain muscles, flexibility (from stretching), experience, philosophy, and greater understanding in all concepts that are presented to u in this form of expression. You are master of your body, so only you determine how your unique style changess/increasses/decreases/etc.

[k1ng]

Originally Posted by dbaznxdragon

If you can predict any and every sound played in a song, define that sound's physical form in your movement, and are able to 'beat hit'/'beat ride' between instruments at will, and (most importantly) NOT **** up your set then you're a good, respectable, aware bboy who knows how to dance.

(Comments/Questions/Opinions)?

you made this a sticky so i'll be as real as i can:
it was mostly vague and general...which was fine until i read the end.
bluntly, this shallow statement does not serve justice to the depths of true b-boying. when you bring up good, respectable, and aware, (G.R.A.) you're talking about what makes a complete b-boy and that's not to be taken lightly...

while musicality and hitting beats are undeniably crucial to this dance, i disagree that having just these establishes you as G.R.A.. (maybe you omitted something out of haste or thoughtlessness)

basically, you're missing originality. i'm not gonna look for where you implied the importance of originality because if it really mattered, you would have said it explicitly; looking at the thread title, it was reasonable for me to expect this (as well as everyone else reading).
everything so far has been about technical and musical knowledge...but there is a higher level.

compare someone who has successfully imitatated someone great and someone who has established their own flava and personality (assume equal raw talent, skill, and knowledge).

with respect to G.R.A., who is more complete? who will always be more complete?
the imitator only knows someone else rather than himself whereas the originator knows himself and little else. which is ultimately more valuable?

[Vice President]

it's also important to develop your personality. i dont mean just on the dance floor. some of the craziest bboys have very strong personalities in real life. you can't be a boring little high school kid and expect to be a nasty bboy just cuz you trained your freezes and footwork moves really hard. you yourself have to be an interesting person so that it can reflect in your dancing.

i've seen a lot of kids start killing beats because they've been watching a lot of born. it's obvious. but they're hitting these beats like it's a move, not a dance. THAT'S NO GOOD, SUCKA.

[BbOyJeOpArDy]

yeah my personality started to change a bit haha, im hella goofy and when i speak i accompany it w/ hella movement and actions like im toprocking or burning someone with uprock...
except i cant uprock....
but it's just how i am now

[flying_steps]

oh god...this is how to bboy well

*quits*.....shiit...this hard as hell...why does this have to be so complicated
i really dont understand this side of dancing...

[Man of Confiden]

In all fairness, its hard part to put into words. Actually, bottom line, its impossible. U'll always be missing sumthin, and the only ppl who will fully understand wut your talkin about are the ppl that already get it. Its a great attempt, and I would say it was very eloquent, but the meaning will be lost to beginners completely. Its one of those things that has to be experienced and realized for oneself, ya kno?? Straight up tho, it was well put.

Goin off what u said VP, i think this gen of bboys is losin a lot of "soul" ya kno? The net, while its great in terms of gettin da culture around, promotes this weird ass "moves" mentality. Its jus monkey see monkey do ya kno? Da scene, at least mine, is lackin a LOTTA heart fo sho!

[flying_steps]

does that mean im a beginner?

[dbaznxdragon]

Originally Posted by k1ng

you made this a sticky so i'll be as real as i can:
it was mostly vague and general...which was fine until i read the end.
bluntly, this shallow statement does not serve justice to the depths of true b-boying. when you bring up good, respectable, and aware, (G.R.A.) you're talking about what makes a complete b-boy and that's not to be taken lightly...

while musicality and hitting beats are undeniably crucial to this dance, i disagree that having just these establishes you as G.R.A.. (maybe you omitted something out of haste or thoughtlessness)

basically, you're missing originality. i'm not gonna look for where you implied the importance of originality because if it really mattered, you would have said it explicitly; looking at the thread title, it was reasonable for me to expect this (as well as everyone else reading).
everything so far has been about technical and musical knowledge...but there is a higher level.

compare someone who has successfully imitatated someone great and someone who has established their own flava and personality (assume equal raw talent, skill, and knowledge).

with respect to G.R.A., who is more complete? who will always be more complete?
the imitator only knows someone else rather than himself whereas the originator knows himself and little else. which is ultimately more valuable?

I didn't make a "how to be a complete bboy" thread. i made a "determining one's own style/character/self-expression" thread. This thread was to give newcomers/newbs/ignorant people knowledge on dance and music so they can incorporate (and determine) their own style/character/self-expression for themselves...i'm not spoonfeedin any kiddies here...

p.s. - there's no such thing as a complete bboy...

Good/Respectable/Aware: Good=decent moves/movement, Respectable=respect for one's own culture/environment, Aware: knowledgeable of one's history/foundation/art

Originally Posted by Vice President

it's also important to develop your personality. i dont mean just on the dance floor. some of the craziest bboys have very strong personalities in real life. you can't be a boring little high school kid and expect to be a nasty bboy just cuz you trained your freezes and footwork moves really hard. you yourself have to be an interesting person so that it can reflect in your dancing.

i've seen a lot of kids start killing beats because they've been watching a lot of born. it's obvious. but they're hitting these beats like it's a move, not a dance. THAT'S NO GOOD, SUCKA.

their personality is the style/attitude/etc. that they want to express themselves in...(e.g. popeye character, old man character, determined bboy attitude, goofty bboy attitude, etc.)

i didn't tell people to hit beats...i mentioned it so newbs can be aware of it. I also said to try and master as much music and understand such to be a much better dancer

personality/style/attitude/...many words to describe the similar action of expressing one's self.

Originally Posted by Man of Confiden

In all fairness, its hard part to put into words. Actually, bottom line, its impossible. U'll always be missing sumthin, and the only ppl who will fully understand wut your talkin about are the ppl that already get it. Its a great attempt, and I would say it was very eloquent, but the meaning will be lost to beginners completely. Its one of those things that has to be experienced and realized for oneself, ya kno?? Straight up tho, it was well put.

Goin off what u said VP, i think this gen of bboys is losin a lot of "soul" ya kno? The net, while its great in terms of gettin da culture around, promotes this weird ass "moves" mentality. Its jus monkey see monkey do ya kno? Da scene, at least mine, is lackin a LOTTA heart fo sho!

i didn't say 'read dbaznxdragon's post and only live by those rules'...OF COURSE people have to go out and experience so this can be realized.

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if anyone has noticed...i haven't given any info about MOVES. who even said i was talking about hitting beats with moves? or to rely on my posts? or that i was defining a complete bboy?

everyone has to determine who they want to be and how to be that person....but i can help people in the RIGHT DIRECTION by educating those who are interested about dance, music, and how to start expressing themselves...i left it general for a reason...so the general public can use such advice.

[flying_steps]

:'( no answer....

[Man of Confiden]

^^ I know what you meant db, I'm jus sayin that other ppl might not. Remember your target audience, chances are they wont think "i have to go experience this firsthand to get it"....da net gen doesn't quite think like dat for the most part. Just make sure u keep emphasizin that like u have been brotha !

[Bboy Mixtape M.C]

i myself am beginning 2 develop my own style of bboying although its still not fully developed its jus natural the way i do things... as 4 hitting the beat while i toprock im working on it, but i jus love listening 2 a song and letting loose

be who u are in life, in the dancefloor... and if u truly love this dance the your joy shall be seen by others in your style

thts all i gotta say

peace easy

[_-=FiRe=-_]

well put (for the most part).

i agree with man of confidence tho, some of this stuff may be rather hard to understand for newer bboys. i also think its necessary to emphasize the need to experience this on a personal level out in the scene rather then just reading about it online

all i got for now, brain dead in general today

[dbaznxdragon]

Originally Posted by Man of Confiden

^^ I know what you meant db, I'm jus sayin that other ppl might not. Remember your target audience, chances are they wont think "i have to go experience this firsthand to get it"....da net gen doesn't quite think like dat for the most part. Just make sure u keep emphasizin that like u have been brotha !

the people in the "net gen" that expect to be spoonfed are not my target audience. my target audience are those online who are interested, capable, and willing enough to consider advice from one who knows a satisfactory amount. the kids at the back of the class lookin for cheat sheets will just not pass if they're not about their shit. know what you mean MoC but...

Originally Posted by Bboy Mixtape M.C

i myself am beginning 2 develop my own style of bboying although its still not fully developed its jus natural the way i do things... as 4 hitting the beat while i toprock im working on it, but i jus love listening 2 a song and letting loose

be who u are in life, in the dancefloor... and if u truly love this dance the your joy shall be seen by others in your style

thts all i gotta say

peace easy

^^^ ...THIS kind of reaction is what i'm looking for. People who are looking at their own style (rather than dickriding media bboys) and are trying to fully develop themselves to the music being listened.

"be who u are in life, in the dancefloor... and if u truly love this dance the your joy shall be seen by others in your style

thts all i gotta say"

now that's wsup