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08-18-2007, 02:23 PM

Originally Posted by B-boy Jp View Post
So what you think about this then: IF someone wants to give someone disrespect, there must be a valid reason that a mod/tane will go over to check that it is ok. So yeah what deignorizer said just with the disrespect part though. I dont see a reason for mods to go over giving respect since it cant be really abused.
I see a reason. Same reason why certain people post merely to raise their post count. Some members believe that a high post count means you're more respected. I believe that what you post should make you more respected. Now people can abuse giving disrespect and giving respect. Members DO help each other out looking more resepected (dickriders)...and can abuse the respect application so. Other members will abuse the disrespect option if they dont' like particular members for a bias reason.

It isn't hard to add a disrespect option and monitor both the respect AND disrespect option.

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08-18-2007, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by dbaznxdragon View Post
I see a reason. Same reason why certain people post merely to raise their post count. Some members believe that a high post count means you're more respected. I believe that what you post should make you more respected. Now people can abuse giving disrespect and giving respect. Members DO help each other out looking more resepected (dickriders)...and can abuse the respect application so. Other members will abuse the disrespect option if they dont' like particular members for a bias reason.

It isn't hard to add a disrespect option and monitor both the respect AND disrespect option.
Touche, but yeah, we need to give a little more time to let it settle in. I've got more respect than you deig but you probably deserve more than me :/ get my point ? Oh and also, mods shouldnt be allowed to monitor they're own dis/respect because, as much as i wished not they could abuse it too.

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08-18-2007, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by B-boy Jp View Post
Touche, but yeah, we need to give a little more time to let it settle in. I've got more respect than you deig but you probably deserve more than me :/ get my point ? Oh and also, mods shouldnt be allowed to monitor they're own dis/respect because, as much as i wished not they could abuse it too.
You are right about that JP, i agree, mods should not be able to monitor their own dis/respect.

I believe that the respect/disrespect application can exist on it's own without the post count application. If we do keep the post count, at least make it non visible on the forum boards and just have the respect, disrespect option and status visible. If we keep the post count, i think it should be on the member's profile page...so if people want to look it up, they can. On the forums, i don't think the post count helps anything that the respect/disrespect option doesn't cover already.

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08-18-2007, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by B-boy Jp View Post
Touche, but yeah, we need to give a little more time to let it settle in. I've got more respect than you deig but you probably deserve more than me :/ get my point ? Oh and also, mods shouldnt be allowed to monitor they're own dis/respect because, as much as i wished not they could abuse it too.
The respect system is just a foundation for bigger things. I think a disrespect button would come in handy for many reasons not just to stop wack ass members getting respect that they don't deserve but to show the posters history and how they act in this forum. I hope tane agrees with all our opinions and the requests that we demanded.
 

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08-18-2007, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by SniperZ View Post
The respect system is just a foundation for bigger things. I think a disrespect button would come in handy for many reasons not just to stop wack ass members getting respect that they don't deserve but to show the posters history and how they act in this forum. I hope tane agrees with all our opinions and the requests that we demanded.
That's a great idea, a dis/respect history can show the growth of a member whether it's a positive or negative growth.

I'm thinking of making a sig petition (similar to the 'snoop/desi for mod') to voice our opinions and have other members include it in their sig if they agree with our proposals. Honestly, i see no reason why our requests should not be tested.

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08-18-2007, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by dbaznxdragon View Post
I believe that the respect/disrespect application can exist on it's own without the post count application.
Well, yeah but the post count has its own story to tell. How much the user contributes to the forum for example. I mean, i could post 3 usefull/informative/ threads or guides and get 5 more respect for that. But that wouldnt tell anyone how much you contributed right ? thats just an example but yeah...

Originally Posted by dbaznxdragon View Post
I'm thinking of making a sig petition (similar to the 'snoop/desi for mod') to voice our opinions and have other members include it in their sig if they agree with our proposals. Honestly, i see no reason why our requests should not be tested.
I'd support you.

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08-18-2007, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by B-boy Jp View Post
Well, yeah but the post count has its own story to tell. How much the user contributes to the forum for example. I mean, i could post 3 usefull/informative/ threads or guides and get 5 more respect for that. But that wouldnt tell anyone how much you contributed right ? thats just an example but yeah...



I'd support you.
We can already show how users contribute by the dis/respect option. The post count merely says how many posts they've made..not how many quality posts they've made. You said 'i could post 3 useful/informative threads or guides and get 5 MORE RESPECT FOR THAT'...which would easily fall under the dis/respect option category.

Thanks for your support, i will start on it soon and keep people posted.

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08-18-2007, 09:45 PM

The problem with your guy's suggestion is that it IS a great idea...but keep in mind that someone needs to write the code to do it, the respect feature isn't going to come with everything we suggested unfortunately, so rather than debate about stuff that could or could not be possible with the current respect system, I would prefer it if Tane posted everything that our current system could do, and we go from there.

 

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08-19-2007, 12:18 AM

OK I just tried to give myself respect and it said I have 24 reputation points. Sounds about right. But I am only seeing 2. Maybe the system is right, it just isn't used to displaying double digits?
 

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08-19-2007, 12:18 AM

I don't think i agree with eliminating post count... I don't really see any advantage to it. I mean it doesn't stop people from spamming really... And i really doubt rep will cover any work that people have done in the past if theyre not active any more. I mean i've repped the guides that i've found useful and appreciate, but i'm not too sure others are doing so and are just giving props to those that think of "good" ideas to change the site.

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08-19-2007, 02:28 AM

Originally Posted by Ziveeman View Post
The problem with your guy's suggestion is that it IS a great idea...but keep in mind that someone needs to write the code to do it, the respect feature isn't going to come with everything we suggested unfortunately, so rather than debate about stuff that could or could not be possible with the current respect system, I would prefer it if Tane posted everything that our current system could do, and we go from there.
if it's java or python coding...i can do it

Originally Posted by RingerINC View Post
I don't think i agree with eliminating post count... I don't really see any advantage to it. I mean it doesn't stop people from spamming really... And i really doubt rep will cover any work that people have done in the past if theyre not active any more. I mean i've repped the guides that i've found useful and appreciate, but i'm not too sure others are doing so and are just giving props to those that think of "good" ideas to change the site.
well dude...seriously..ur not giving any reason why it WONT work...ur jus SAYING it won't work...we're trying to help bboy.org.

c'mon..u kno post count plays a role into spamming...no one can deny that

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08-19-2007, 02:48 AM

Ringer and others like him are reluctant to give up their post count. For a simple reason too, because having such a high post count makes people feel authoritative and senior.

I don't really care about any of that shit anymore, whatever happens, happens.

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08-19-2007, 03:09 AM

i just think disrespect would be funny. especially when everyone teams up on assholes or just for fun and see how much disrespect he gets hahah.

anyways, forget who said it, but we should know which post we got respect/disrespect for. itd be lots more fun that way. also, we shouldnt know who gave the respect, but im pretty sure that wasnt gonna change.
 

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08-19-2007, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by ampyun View Post
i just think disrespect would be funny. especially when everyone teams up on assholes or just for fun and see how much disrespect he gets hahah.

anyways, forget who said it, but we should know which post we got respect/disrespect for. itd be lots more fun that way. also, we shouldnt know who gave the respect, but im pretty sure that wasnt gonna change.
well if we get to see which post we got respect/disrespect for...we can better understand how our posts are affecting the bboy.org community...we can reflect on if it's positive or negative..or jus plain funny

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08-19-2007, 06:32 AM

I think this all sounds quite complicated. Why don't we see how the respect system pans out in its current state before we start changing it? If it fails, then we take it to the next level, but maybe, just maybe, it will work in it's current incarnation.

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