The Hip Hop Knowledge Thread -
03-19-2007, 02:27 PM
I've been noticing that too many people on bboy.org are coming in with little or no knowledge of hip hop or bboying and still give advice and opinions like they know what the hell they're talking about. This forum is filled with way too much B.S. history and other knowledge, and I'm getting really frustrated with it.
I'm hoping alot of the older and more experienced bboys can help me out with this, but heres how this thread is going to work:
1. Drop the knowledge you have in as few posts as possible. This includes written knowledge, interviews, things you've learned from others at jams, etc.
*It MUST be accurate. If you aren't 100% sure what you're posting is a fact, don't post at all. This is how the forums got overrun with shit in the first place.
*If you know a piece of information is false, quote it and put underneath why it's false. Do not just say it's false or correct it. Give a reason why. The quoted info will then be deleted (please note your post may be reworded so it makes sense once the quoted material is deleted).
*Make sure you get info from a reliable source. Post interviews only from real bboys and don't use wikipedia or any other unreliable sources.
*Read through all the posts to make sure you aren't repeating what someone has already said.
*Don't plagiarize!!!! If you use something from someone, give credit where credit is due.
2. This is not the WIKI. Do not post definitions to words. All posts like this will be deleted. Also, do not post battle or session clips. They will be deleted as well.
3. If you intentionally drop false knowledge or spam this thread, you will be warned and possibly banned. Don't take this threat lightly.
4. Learn from this thread, but make sure you realize that this is a forum and anybody can post here. That means not everything will be 100% accurate. I just hope we, as a community, can get it as close as possible.
In the words of Alien Ness: "If we don't document [our history] we're going to be a lost civilization."
Kool Herc [Clive Campbell] is considered to be the pioneer of hip hop and the first hip hop DJ. He moved to the Bronx from Jamaica in 1967. As a DJ, he became interested in the break section of a song (where the vocals would stop but the beat would continue for a short time). Many bboys would wait for a certain beat and he realized that if he bought two copies of the same record, he could play a break beat, and when it was over, throw it to the other turntable and play the same part, thus seemingly extending the break section of the song. He was also known for his incredibly loud sound system he called "The Herculoids" and for coining the term "b-boy" or "break boy" (break meaning to "go off").
What's the difference between a DJ and a turntabilist?
The term "turntabilism" was created in 1994 by DJ Supreme to describe the difference between a DJ (generally just plays records), and turntabilist (one who actually performs, by touching and moving the records to manipulate sound).
(Question acquired from Foundation Funkollective application)
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Scratch (2001): Documentary about the History and Culture of Turntablism
My process: accomplish through perseverance/
Every man's not my brother regardless of appearance/
Apprehension clouds the spirit/
Tension prepares us for ascension/
And at his best is when he breaks conventions/
A convenient covenant coveted for conception/
What is the difference between a tagger and a writer?
A tagger is usually used to refer to those who only do tags and throwups and who never piece, solely tags with no intention of supporting hip-hop. A writer is defined as a practitioner of the art of graffiti and is more artistically driven; a more prestigious term than a tagger.
(Question acquired from Foundation Funkollective application)
(Answer acquired from JM)
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Style Wars (1983): A Documentary of New York Graffiti circa 1983.
early on, there was a cultural divide between hip hoppers who were into the party scene, and hip hoppers who were more socially conscious.
there still is, to a certain extent.
for example, rappers like run dmc did not wear ostentatious jewellery or focus on them to discourage materialism.
as of now, there are sub genres of hip hop that focus on thos topics.
for example, crunk.
this goes for most mainstream raps.
hence the popular misconception of hip hop as a "thug" culture all about money, drugs, guns and such.
the more socially conscious side of hip hop has more or less been relegated to the underground.
anyway...
i just registered.
trolled for a long time though.
glad to finally start posting.
What is the difference between a tagger and a writer?
A tagger is usually used to refer to those who only do tags and throwups and who never piece, solely tags with no intention of supporting hip-hop. A writer is defined as a practitioner of the art of graffiti and is more artistically driven; a more prestigious term than a tagger.
(Question acquired from Foundation Funkollective application)
(Answer acquired from JM)
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Style Wars (1983): A Documentary of New York Graffiti circa 1983.
tagging and bombing is the soul of graff. Without tagging there would never be any pieces. EVERYTHING in graff started with tagging. Taki and Julio from new york were the main writers that set it off in the 70's, just putting tags everywhere. Think about it, a piece is just a big tag with colours and decoration.
The kids hating on tagging arent real writers at all, just chill spots and legal wall toys. People that just do pieces and dont tag or bomb are worthless in the graff world, they are nobodies. To be a real writer you gotta be able to do it all. If you can bust a sick piece but have wack handstyle you aint shit. If you dont bomb and hold up your name then get the fuck out.
And whats this no intention of supporting hip hop''?? What the hell is that supposed to mean. Graff has nothing to do with hip hop. Hip hop uses graff to whore itself and sell itself. What the fuck has 'hip hop'' given to the writers?Graff was its own thing before MCing and breakin and all that shit came along
I tried to write down the things said from the clip above, about the real meaning of foundation. Because english is not my mother language and at sometimes in the clip it's hard to hear what ken swift says i didn't manage to get everything down. So please help me fill in the gaps, cause this knowledge is mad important.
Foundation is a combination of the mental approach, the filosophies, attitude, the rythm, style and character combined with move. Foundation is not moves, people think 'well, i got foundation,' they throw over a sweep and do a swipe and do a little thing you know, chair freeze, '... that, i got foundation'.
But foundation isn't a move, foundation is the ... to understand making connection with a a song and expressing that attitude and putting the flavor onto the move.
If you don't put the flavor onto the move, that's not foundation.
So foundation to me is the attitude ... the move, combined as a whole package.
People think foundation is just moves.
All the actual foundation moves are the actual first moves that bboys did in the 70s. There are moves that we consider ...
No move can be a foundation move, unless you got style on it. Beacause if you do a move with no style, no flavor, that shit is wack. Thats not foundation, foundation is a combination of the attitude in .... the understanding of the song
and then putting that on top of the move on top of who you are, thats what foundation is.
"What more can I say. Whe wouldn't be here today if the oldschool didn't pave the way." 2pac - Oldschool
Presents a panoramic view of the music that blossomed in the Latino community of the South Bronx from the late 1940’s when mambo burst onto the New York cultural scene, through the birth of Hip-Hop in the 1970’s. The film chronicles two generations who grew up literally on the same streets, and both used rhythm as their form of rebellion – for the older generation it was the pulsating rhythms of Cuba; for their children it was the rhythms of Hip-Hop.
hip hop
H eart
I ntellegence
P ower
H ard
O ver the top
P eace
FAT BBOY POWER SCREW SKINNY AND BUFF ( of course when i become one of them skinny power) but untill then fat graffiti/ skratch dj/ bboy akeens wont stop cant stop and could never stop . !FAT POWER!
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