Flavor or power?

Bboy_Shindo · **Flavor or power? -** 12-03-2003, 10:06 PM

I've been faced with this alot lately. Peeps hit the floor and they've been like all power, flares and mills, 90's 2000's and swipes and whatever. When a crowd draws around they all like damn! But when a bboy goes to hit all footwork and hard soul and flavor toprock not many of them can dance for shiz! What's up with that? I'm mostly for good foundations and basics, keeping in the old school brooklyn rock and indian steps and all that, and some posers hate on me cuz I don't always go for a halo or something big like an airtrack. what do you all think? How should a bboy be based? Give me some feedback.

qubixrube · 12-03-2003, 10:19 PM

however they want to be based - its personal opinion

power and style are both bboying, 1 jus more traditional then the other.

all of it depends on how good u are @ it. I seen sum dope footwork ppl and sum dope power ppl, and then theirs the decent, and then the shit pile,and it doesnt matter ifu r 1 or both, ugotta practise and hit those moves. Peace
_murda

bboyarfen · 12-03-2003, 10:40 PM

power with flava

if you've got style in all your moves power or footwork then you deserve props and the crowd...if your doin shit power and gettin more props than the person who throws down dope footwork you should get out of the circle and work on your style

12-03-2003, 10:49 PM

You got to have everythin to be a true b-boy/b-girl. You can't just base everything on style or everythin on power. You'll see what I mean when you only choose one and you battle someone with both. Prepare to get served.

STIFF_UK · 12-03-2003, 11:10 PM

If you ain't got flaour - you ain't got shit.
Simple as that.

Personally I rock 99% "style" - I got a few tricks (swipes and the likes) - but on the whole it's all "tops, drops, footwork and freezes".

I was out tonight doing nothing but rocking and bboying (non-power) and had a crowd going nuts.
Was fun.

erock_BIS_NY · 12-03-2003, 11:49 PM

I've become a foundational bboy and I love it...I just love seeing people have great tops and footwork to match it, its just so much more interesting then watch someone do flares and power that I've already seen a billion times...

flavor and power are both dope but I love foundation...I always think of power as gymnastics for some reason, not out of ignorance but its just how I see it...lol

I could watch dyzze so many more times than boy from havikoro

STIFF_UK · 12-04-2003, 12:02 AM

"I could watch dyzze so many more times than boy from havikoro"
That's it right there.

On the subject of havikoro, my mate was called out by little john a while back - while they were uprocking - my mate burned him.
Of course - once he went down he left my boy for dead - but still - burned little john on tops and ups - not bad eh?

erock_BIS_NY · 12-04-2003, 12:12 AM

damn, thats cool...

lil johns tops and ups are a bit too basic and stuff...his uprock is weird and I always see him do that same jerk where he grabs the guy and "throws" him up to the sky...

I like lil john though, I dont know why but he seems cool, I dont think that he cares what people think of his moves and it shows when he dances...I like those things that he does where he does footwork and gets up and rolls down and back, its cool to watch...

STIFF_UK · 12-04-2003, 12:26 AM

Yea - I do like him - like you said, kinda basic - but good with it.
I give him props that's for sure.
And I definately like the "doesn't care" attitude.

And as for that jerk - lol - when you see him rock - you're just WAITING for it to come out.

Xero0197 · 12-04-2003, 02:26 PM

Im mostly a stylist but i got flares and swipes and some other power but i think style is mostly important

lil'kiwi · 12-04-2003, 02:50 PM

I dont know wat is this "flavour" u guys talking about....forgive me for being dumb....but to me,of coz the crowds gonna love to see all those power moves than those footworks b'coz the crowds only like those things that they think they can't do....like standing one two hands,spinning on one hand and those things....but footwork and toprock,u do it with ur legs,that is something everyone can do,they think it is easy to do,to them,all they think is"how difficult is that,u just stand on ur legs and shake ur body around".....but only a true b-boy will really appreciate ur footwork and ur toprock coz they know how hard is it to get nice footwork and toprock.....thats me

Pyro of xFx · 12-04-2003, 03:17 PM

to sum it up it basically comes down to: if you wanna impress a crowd, you do power. if you wanna impress bboys, do tops and footwork

trails · **Well -** 12-04-2003, 03:38 PM

Think about this...

Everyone who trains hard enough can learn power.

Not everyone can learn to be a good dancer, hit moves to the beat, and have their own unique style.

Who do you dance for?

The crowd, to be the best dancer you can be, or to be the best athlete/gymnast you can be?

maninderb · 12-04-2003, 04:07 PM

The true meaning of a bboy to me would be being someone different. Having your own style of doing things. Being creative and having your own signature moves. The meaning of a true bboy to me is also being able good and familiar with all the elements of breaking.

Spikey#1 · 12-04-2003, 04:07 PM

a crowd who haven't seen nothing yat bout breaking would go gaga at everything but then there are always some people in the crowd whos gonna say i saw better than that..so just to shut them up powers are neccessary and well i dance coz i love breaking..but in all honesty i'd be lying if i say i don't have the intention to impress the crowd..well to me footworks are really dope and i would prefer to see a bboy doing his thing then busting all powers but then like i said diff people accordingly needs diff show tobe impressed!!

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Bboy_Shindo Bboy Urban Kat Respect: 1 Posts: 136 Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cleveland	Flavor or power? - 12-03-2003, 10:06 PM I've been faced with this alot lately. Peeps hit the floor and they've been like all power, flares and mills, 90's 2000's and swipes and whatever. When a crowd draws around they all like damn! But when a bboy goes to hit all footwork and hard soul and flavor toprock not many of them can dance for shiz! What's up with that? I'm mostly for good foundations and basics, keeping in the old school brooklyn rock and indian steps and all that, and some posers hate on me cuz I don't always go for a halo or something big like an airtrack. what do you all think? How should a bboy be based? Give me some feedback.
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qubixrube Current title: Respect: 1 Posts: 999 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Port Moody	12-03-2003, 10:19 PM however they want to be based - its personal opinion power and style are both bboying, 1 jus more traditional then the other. all of it depends on how good u are @ it. I seen sum dope footwork ppl and sum dope power ppl, and then theirs the decent, and then the shit pile,and it doesnt matter ifu r 1 or both, ugotta practise and hit those moves. Peace _murda
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bboyarfen the muffin lives on... Respect: 1 Posts: 2,216 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: pittsburgh	12-03-2003, 10:40 PM power with flava if you've got style in all your moves power or footwork then you deserve props and the crowd...if your doin shit power and gettin more props than the person who throws down dope footwork you should get out of the circle and work on your style
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Posts: n/a	12-03-2003, 10:49 PM You got to have everythin to be a true b-boy/b-girl. You can't just base everything on style or everythin on power. You'll see what I mean when you only choose one and you battle someone with both. Prepare to get served.
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STIFF_UK Jesus Loves You Respect: 7 Posts: 2,861 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Manchester UK	12-03-2003, 11:10 PM If you ain't got flaour - you ain't got shit. Simple as that. Personally I rock 99% "style" - I got a few tricks (swipes and the likes) - but on the whole it's all "tops, drops, footwork and freezes". I was out tonight doing nothing but rocking and bboying (non-power) and had a crowd going nuts. Was fun.
	A bboy without style, is like a broken pencil. There's just no point.


erock_BIS_NY bklyn ny bboy Respect: 2.5 Posts: 353 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York	12-03-2003, 11:49 PM I've become a foundational bboy and I love it...I just love seeing people have great tops and footwork to match it, its just so much more interesting then watch someone do flares and power that I've already seen a billion times... flavor and power are both dope but I love foundation...I always think of power as gymnastics for some reason, not out of ignorance but its just how I see it...lol I could watch dyzze so many more times than boy from havikoro
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STIFF_UK Jesus Loves You Respect: 7 Posts: 2,861 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Manchester UK	12-04-2003, 12:02 AM "I could watch dyzze so many more times than boy from havikoro" That's it right there. On the subject of havikoro, my mate was called out by little john a while back - while they were uprocking - my mate burned him. Of course - once he went down he left my boy for dead - but still - burned little john on tops and ups - not bad eh?
	A bboy without style, is like a broken pencil. There's just no point.


erock_BIS_NY bklyn ny bboy Respect: 2.5 Posts: 353 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: New York	12-04-2003, 12:12 AM damn, thats cool... lil johns tops and ups are a bit too basic and stuff...his uprock is weird and I always see him do that same jerk where he grabs the guy and "throws" him up to the sky... I like lil john though, I dont know why but he seems cool, I dont think that he cares what people think of his moves and it shows when he dances...I like those things that he does where he does footwork and gets up and rolls down and back, its cool to watch...
	"We're slaves of white collars, advertising has us chasing cars and clothes, working jobs we hate, so we can buy shit we don't need" - Fight Club


STIFF_UK Jesus Loves You Respect: 7 Posts: 2,861 Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Manchester UK	12-04-2003, 12:26 AM Yea - I do like him - like you said, kinda basic - but good with it. I give him props that's for sure. And I definately like the "doesn't care" attitude. And as for that jerk - lol - when you see him rock - you're just WAITING for it to come out.
	A bboy without style, is like a broken pencil. There's just no point.


Xero0197 Wrath of Heaven Respect: 1 Posts: 410 Join Date: May 2003	12-04-2003, 02:26 PM Im mostly a stylist but i got flares and swipes and some other power but i think style is mostly important
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lil'kiwi The SHORT lyricist Respect: 1 Posts: 1,003 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Ya' Gotta Know	12-04-2003, 02:50 PM I dont know wat is this "flavour" u guys talking about....forgive me for being dumb....but to me,of coz the crowds gonna love to see all those power moves than those footworks b'coz the crowds only like those things that they think they can't do....like standing one two hands,spinning on one hand and those things....but footwork and toprock,u do it with ur legs,that is something everyone can do,they think it is easy to do,to them,all they think is"how difficult is that,u just stand on ur legs and shake ur body around".....but only a true b-boy will really appreciate ur footwork and ur toprock coz they know how hard is it to get nice footwork and toprock.....thats me
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Pyro of xFx 20 oz Bboy Respect: 1 Posts: 487 Join Date: Oct 2003	12-04-2003, 03:17 PM to sum it up it basically comes down to: if you wanna impress a crowd, you do power. if you wanna impress bboys, do tops and footwork
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trails Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 20 Join Date: Mar 2003	Well - 12-04-2003, 03:38 PM Think about this... Everyone who trains hard enough can learn power. Not everyone can learn to be a good dancer, hit moves to the beat, and have their own unique style. Who do you dance for? The crowd, to be the best dancer you can be, or to be the best athlete/gymnast you can be?
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maninderb B-boy Yoga Hybrid Respect: 1 Posts: 257 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Surrey	12-04-2003, 04:07 PM The true meaning of a bboy to me would be being someone different. Having your own style of doing things. Being creative and having your own signature moves. The meaning of a true bboy to me is also being able good and familiar with all the elements of breaking.


Spikey#1 God,faith,will,momentum! Respect: 1 Posts: 426 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: 10th downing	12-04-2003, 04:07 PM a crowd who haven't seen nothing yat bout breaking would go gaga at everything but then there are always some people in the crowd whos gonna say i saw better than that..so just to shut them up powers are neccessary and well i dance coz i love breaking..but in all honesty i'd be lying if i say i don't have the intention to impress the crowd..well to me footworks are really dope and i would prefer to see a bboy doing his thing then busting all powers but then like i said diff people accordingly needs diff show tobe impressed!!
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