Is this a good pc?? off topic

BBoy_Jon · 01:35 AM

well i really want to know cuz i might get this for x-mas

is this a good pc?

http://www.ibuypower.com/confirm/con...tb-ddr-333.htm

which case is better the raidmax scorpio 668 aluminum case or the raidmax scorpio 868 mid-tower case?? wats the difference?

im gonna get a 420 watt power supply upgrade, AMD Athlon XP 2500 (is that good?, how many ghz is that?)

Im gonna upgrade the vid card to a ATI Radeon 9200 128 mbit w/ tv-out video, its only 26 dollars more (is this a good vid card?? or should i get another one)

im gonna get a 10/100 pci network card (12 dollars)

yellow mulitmedia/keyboard/ and internet mouse (9 dollars)

plus like some of the stuff (cd burner ect. is gonna be yellow (7 dollars for each thing) so my total is!

$538.00 is that a good price for this computer?? is the amd athlon 2500 good? how many ghz is it?? let me know what i should change.

thanx

i might upgrade the video card to a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128mbit cuz i heard the 9200 was bad, i also might upgrade the ram to 512 the total comes out to be around $680.00 is that good??

I dont want to build a pc

thanx

newBreaker19 · 11-05-2003, 12:32 AM

dude that link dont work... but by the way your saying it uhh you confuse me what do you want the 420 something... i figuere its a camara right. Well whatever busts your bubble would be nice lol jk i dont know much about cameras but whatever they say works better use it.

Mowicz · 11-05-2003, 01:12 AM

1: No diff. It's just how you'd like your comp lookin' like.

2: 420 watts? Kind've unnecessary, isn't it?....unless u wanna have like, every drive hooked up at once (with like 3 HDs. lol) As for the GHz.....I got no damn clue. lol

3: A decent card. A better one can probably be found, but it probably wouldn't be worth your money (unless you're goin' into like movie development or somethin'......$26's a good price for that one.) They also may not have TV-out, which's particularly good if u got a normal camcorder, and wanna post up some vids.

4: Personally, I'd get an ethernet card instead of a PCI one......your own choice, but I find they're easier to deal with.

Yea, I'd say it's a decent price.....however, I dunno about the processor. Someone with some extra know-how'd be best to tell ya that.

Peace.

[G]host_47 · 11-05-2003, 01:32 AM

I haven't heard about those cases but if I were you I would buy a Antec Plusview 1000AMG.. its got a window so u can mod if u want.. or theres the 1080AMG which doesn't have a window BUT it does come with a nice power supply.

You shouldn't skimp on the power supply. I would get a nice beefy 480w Antec PSU. Antec make really good PSU's. The Athlon 2500 would be maybe 1.8ghz - 2ghz. I think the 2400 is 1.8ghz but I'm NOT sure.

The Radeon 9200 is a nice card. Its kinda like a budget card. I recently bought a GeForce4 Ti4800SE for $280 AUSD. Its got a normal VGA connector, a DVI for flatscreen panels (LCD's) I think and a S-Video connector for tv's and handycam cables (I think).

Make sure u get DDR RAM coz SDRAM is sh*thouse. The 9600Pro is an ok card, it isn't faster than the 9500Pro but it is newer. Hmm u should probably look at a 9700 non-pro if u can afford it or maybe a decent GeForce4 Ti4200 or a 4800SE. U should see if u can build ur pc too, u'll learn a lot and it does cost more if u want to get it built I think.

BBoy_Jon · 11-05-2003, 01:45 AM

ok fixed the link

Aight well it says that if im buying the computer for heavy usage or gaming (yes) then i should upgrade to 420 watt power supply (19 dollars so wat the heck)

the memory is DDR400 256mb pc3200 or 512mb Dual Channel(upgrade)

ehy so the vid card is a good deal?? the Radeon 9200 128mbit vid card?or 26 dollars? really cuz everyone is saying its crappy, it has dvi and tv out video (that means liek it has the plugs right?? (yellow, red, and white?) and does tv tuner mean that u can hook like cable up to the pc?)

i would get the radeon 9600 but its $119.00 more so my total would be like 680 dollars, but with the 26 dollar vid card its like 500-600 dollars

i dont really know wat a pci card is i thought it was just an ethernet card (like u plug ure cable modem into, like a giant telephone wire thing)

can i just use like my old ethernet card, its like a CNET Pro 200wl, or i can always get a new one from a store.

so is this a good gaming computer cuz like my computer cant run crap

thanx

o ya i heard that the athlon 2500 is 1.8 ghz but it runs like it is 2.5ghz so thats kool

[G]host_47 · 11-05-2003, 01:52 AM

Yep, the AMD Athlon CPU's are very good for gaming, although their not as fast as Pentium 4's they perform well.

Nate88 · 11-05-2003, 11:56 AM

Good looks. I would build my own personally. Also, make sure you get the ASUS MoBo. It's better IMHO. And AMD Athlons kick. They are deffinitely a good choice. I disagree with the poster who said 420W is crazy, you gotta remember there are probably gonna be cathodes in there also. And my extra LED's always good to have extra if you ask me. I don't have a lot of lighting in my PC. and i have a 450W run to just under max. I didnt see anything about cooling because I just briefly looked. But I would suggest water-cooling. It's a lot quiter.

BBoy_Jon · 11-05-2003, 07:47 PM

ey wats a LED?

Yo is the vid card good??

the ATI Radeon 9200 128mbit card for $26.00??

or should i get the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128mbit vid card

i would build my pc but i dont wanna buy all the parts online (most of them)

i dont really know about the cooling and all that but the one that comes with it should be fine right?? its like certified cpu fan and heat sink

Spikey#1 · 11-05-2003, 08:33 PM

looks good..performance----?????!!!

BBoy_Jon · 11-05-2003, 08:36 PM

?? wat u mean

its about 1.8 ghz

128mbit vid card dunno if i should get the 9200 for 26 or the 9600 pro for 119

512 ram

and other stuff

it looks tight though doesnt it, so pretty

should i get the big case or the smaller case?? the big case has the open winodw and the smaller one has like that thing covering some of the window

it looks phat!!!!!!

9200 or 9600?? i wanna play games!!

Mode · 10:21 PM

looks pretty tight bro, (is it ddr ram?) i'll get back to you detail wise later, i'm in the middle of class now. anyway, i was wondering, why don't people post up pics of they're computer, i'll post mine up later.

peace.

BBoy_Jon · 11-05-2003, 10:30 PM

its ddr400 ram

Mode · 11-06-2003, 02:17 AM

overall it's a pretty good deal your getting.
- the mobo is good (i recommend - asus a7n8x)
- case is good
- speakers are crummy
- radeon 9200 will def not handle latest games and shit (9600 pro is the least you should go.)

BBoy_Jon · 11-06-2003, 08:03 PM

ya im gonna try to get the 9600pro

i dun really care about hte sound/speakers i never notice a difference in it

huzey · 11-06-2003, 08:59 PM

Get a Athlon XP 2500+ 33fsb "Barton" Core, they are cheap, and are great for gaming.
the CPU is about 2.2GHZ.
upgrade the heat sink and fan, for OCing purposes
get 512 ram, but, get two 256 sticks, for dual chaneling purposes.
someone said "dont get SD ram or some shit like that. he doesnt know what he is talking about, DDR, thats short for it, but is really DDR SDRAM. There is a old style of SDRAM which is different, that no1 would buy.

a 9600 is a great video card, so is a 9700. if you want the best get a 9800 128 MB(very expensive).also geforce 4 ti4600's are great.
you need at least a 350 wat psu.
i like intel better for the fsb

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BBoy_Jon AzN BrEaKeR Respect: 1 Posts: 438 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a rice paddi	Is this a good pc?? off topic - 11-05-2003, 12:30 AM well i really want to know cuz i might get this for x-mas is this a good pc? http://www.ibuypower.com/confirm/con...tb-ddr-333.htm which case is better the raidmax scorpio 668 aluminum case or the raidmax scorpio 868 mid-tower case?? wats the difference? im gonna get a 420 watt power supply upgrade, AMD Athlon XP 2500 (is that good?, how many ghz is that?) Im gonna upgrade the vid card to a ATI Radeon 9200 128 mbit w/ tv-out video, its only 26 dollars more (is this a good vid card?? or should i get another one) im gonna get a 10/100 pci network card (12 dollars) yellow mulitmedia/keyboard/ and internet mouse (9 dollars) plus like some of the stuff (cd burner ect. is gonna be yellow (7 dollars for each thing) so my total is! $538.00 is that a good price for this computer?? is the amd athlon 2500 good? how many ghz is it?? let me know what i should change. thanx i might upgrade the video card to a ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128mbit cuz i heard the 9200 was bad, i also might upgrade the ram to 512 the total comes out to be around $680.00 is that good?? I dont want to build a pc thanx Last edited by BBoy_Jon : 11-05-2003 at 01:35 AM.
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[G]host_47 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 136 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia	11-05-2003, 01:32 AM I haven't heard about those cases but if I were you I would buy a Antec Plusview 1000AMG.. its got a window so u can mod if u want.. or theres the 1080AMG which doesn't have a window BUT it does come with a nice power supply. You shouldn't skimp on the power supply. I would get a nice beefy 480w Antec PSU. Antec make really good PSU's. The Athlon 2500 would be maybe 1.8ghz - 2ghz. I think the 2400 is 1.8ghz but I'm NOT sure. The Radeon 9200 is a nice card. Its kinda like a budget card. I recently bought a GeForce4 Ti4800SE for $280 AUSD. Its got a normal VGA connector, a DVI for flatscreen panels (LCD's) I think and a S-Video connector for tv's and handycam cables (I think). Make sure u get DDR RAM coz SDRAM is sh*thouse. The 9600Pro is an ok card, it isn't faster than the 9500Pro but it is newer. Hmm u should probably look at a 9700 non-pro if u can afford it or maybe a decent GeForce4 Ti4200 or a 4800SE. U should see if u can build ur pc too, u'll learn a lot and it does cost more if u want to get it built I think.
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BBoy_Jon AzN BrEaKeR Respect: 1 Posts: 438 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a rice paddi	11-05-2003, 01:45 AM ok fixed the link Aight well it says that if im buying the computer for heavy usage or gaming (yes) then i should upgrade to 420 watt power supply (19 dollars so wat the heck) the memory is DDR400 256mb pc3200 or 512mb Dual Channel(upgrade) ehy so the vid card is a good deal?? the Radeon 9200 128mbit vid card?or 26 dollars? really cuz everyone is saying its crappy, it has dvi and tv out video (that means liek it has the plugs right?? (yellow, red, and white?) and does tv tuner mean that u can hook like cable up to the pc?) i would get the radeon 9600 but its $119.00 more so my total would be like 680 dollars, but with the 26 dollar vid card its like 500-600 dollars i dont really know wat a pci card is i thought it was just an ethernet card (like u plug ure cable modem into, like a giant telephone wire thing) can i just use like my old ethernet card, its like a CNET Pro 200wl, or i can always get a new one from a store. so is this a good gaming computer cuz like my computer cant run crap thanx o ya i heard that the athlon 2500 is 1.8 ghz but it runs like it is 2.5ghz so thats kool
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[G]host_47 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 136 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Melbourne, Australia	11-05-2003, 01:52 AM Yep, the AMD Athlon CPU's are very good for gaming, although their not as fast as Pentium 4's they perform well.
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Nate88 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 89 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Circle	11-05-2003, 11:56 AM Good looks. I would build my own personally. Also, make sure you get the ASUS MoBo. It's better IMHO. And AMD Athlons kick. They are deffinitely a good choice. I disagree with the poster who said 420W is crazy, you gotta remember there are probably gonna be cathodes in there also. And my extra LED's always good to have extra if you ask me. I don't have a lot of lighting in my PC. and i have a 450W run to just under max. I didnt see anything about cooling because I just briefly looked. But I would suggest water-cooling. It's a lot quiter.


BBoy_Jon AzN BrEaKeR Respect: 1 Posts: 438 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a rice paddi	11-05-2003, 07:47 PM ey wats a LED? Yo is the vid card good?? the ATI Radeon 9200 128mbit card for $26.00?? or should i get the ATI Radeon 9600 Pro 128mbit vid card i would build my pc but i dont wanna buy all the parts online (most of them) i dont really know about the cooling and all that but the one that comes with it should be fine right?? its like certified cpu fan and heat sink
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BBoy_Jon AzN BrEaKeR Respect: 1 Posts: 438 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a rice paddi	11-05-2003, 08:36 PM ?? wat u mean its about 1.8 ghz 128mbit vid card dunno if i should get the 9200 for 26 or the 9600 pro for 119 512 ram and other stuff it looks tight though doesnt it, so pretty should i get the big case or the smaller case?? the big case has the open winodw and the smaller one has like that thing covering some of the window it looks phat!!!!!! 9200 or 9600?? i wanna play games!!
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Mode Moderator Respect: 10 Posts: 2,777 Join Date: May 2003	11-05-2003, 10:17 PM looks pretty tight bro, (is it ddr ram?) i'll get back to you detail wise later, i'm in the middle of class now. anyway, i was wondering, why don't people post up pics of they're computer, i'll post mine up later. peace. Last edited by Mode : 11-05-2003 at 10:21 PM.
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BBoy_Jon AzN BrEaKeR Respect: 1 Posts: 438 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a rice paddi	11-05-2003, 10:30 PM its ddr400 ram
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Mode Moderator Respect: 10 Posts: 2,777 Join Date: May 2003	11-06-2003, 02:17 AM overall it's a pretty good deal your getting. - the mobo is good (i recommend - asus a7n8x) - case is good - speakers are crummy - radeon 9200 will def not handle latest games and shit (9600 pro is the least you should go.)
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BBoy_Jon AzN BrEaKeR Respect: 1 Posts: 438 Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: In a rice paddi	11-06-2003, 08:03 PM ya im gonna try to get the 9600pro i dun really care about hte sound/speakers i never notice a difference in it
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huzey IAM THE LORD Respect: 1 Posts: 220 Join Date: Aug 2003	11-06-2003, 08:59 PM Get a Athlon XP 2500+ 33fsb "Barton" Core, they are cheap, and are great for gaming. the CPU is about 2.2GHZ. upgrade the heat sink and fan, for OCing purposes get 512 ram, but, get two 256 sticks, for dual chaneling purposes. someone said "dont get SD ram or some shit like that. he doesnt know what he is talking about, DDR, thats short for it, but is really DDR SDRAM. There is a old style of SDRAM which is different, that no1 would buy. a 9600 is a great video card, so is a 9700. if you want the best get a 9800 128 MB(very expensive).also geforce 4 ti4600's are great. you need at least a 350 wat psu. i like intel better for the fsb AIM or MSN me if u want more info btw- i didnt read NE posts apart from urs