Breakers are Descriminated Against - Page 3

Trainer · 10-03-2003, 02:19 AM

yeah jman those ppl piss me offf
the thing that pisses me off is that its ur own right, becoz its your own body
its not the principals body so its not gonna cause harm to him, unless ur breakin in a crowded place where u can hurt others
where as other juggling with knives or throwing a baseball around people could harm others around you, and a knife could even hurt you

you have the right to do what you want with your own body in my opinion. i guess if you get injured the school are responsible in a way. but then again theres sports like rugby and football (aussie rules) which are way more dangerous the bboying

ive been playing aussie rules for yrs now and ive had alot of bad injuries and i know that sports like that are way more fuckin dangerious than bboying

Anubis2002 · 10-03-2003, 10:35 AM

The thing is that those are school "sanctioned" n supported by not only the school n faculty but also the parents. No matter what sport u play n how dangerous it is, u HAVE to have someone there who knows what to do when it comes to running the thing, someone who knows what to do in an emergency n someone to take responsibility..

it may not be the principal is shitting on u at all, but that u really do need someone there to watch u who knows whats going on so u dont take any reckless risks

the schools isnt somewhat responsible for you, as long as ur in the school they are completely responsible n thats a BIG risk to take.

BBoy_J-Man · 10-03-2003, 05:04 PM

Originally posted by Anubis2002

it may not be the principal is shitting on u at all, but that u really do need someone there to watch u who knows whats going on so u dont take any reckless risks

if that's the case he had no right to say he's concerned about the suggestive themes we will give off to other people and the clothing we wear... the safety thing I understand...

e_tarobale · 10-03-2003, 10:34 PM

some of the teachers in my school like it, some dont

murasaki0001 · 10-03-2003, 11:41 PM

all u ppl like "my teach does it" DANG! i wish . . .out here. . .dang. . .don no1 break. . .sux bad. . .cuz right now. . .i dont want nuttin more than another breaker out here. . .u guys are lucky. . .J MAN. .dont give up man! live the dream!

ok. . tat was my dramatic moment . .

enjoy

Bb0Y FaYTh · 10-04-2003, 12:41 AM

ppl r either 1) amazed that u spin around or 2) knowing u still spin around. ppl dunt know culture. alotta ppl r dim and blinded by mainstream and stereotypical TRASH. bboys and bgirls deal wit and an keep reppin. battlin keeps dis art alive even tho its freakin massive in da underground scene

LongMarch · 10-04-2003, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by BBoy_J-Man
laugh all you want fag, I don't give 2 shits about what you think..
and obviously you go on your computer too don't you? So maybe you should take your own advice...

hey big man...
read the post a little clearer

a) i am not the one who is talking about my needs to practice
b) is there a hint of pure animosity anywhere in the post? no, so your ignorant homophobic rant is unnecessary.
c) evidently you do give 2 shits about what i think, maybe even 3 and a half

a little quick with the temper, eh
make like epmd and just chill

BBoy_J-Man · 10-04-2003, 03:04 AM

fuck this man, I just wrote a big ass post but deleted it before I posted it because you aint worth it man... I'll just let you go on thinkin' whatever you want buddy... if you wanna laugh when I say breakers are discriminated then go chuckle in a corner by yourself, I don't care...

Poppin Smurf · 10-04-2003, 11:26 AM

boy oh boy bboys gettin angry J-man has a good story there i had the same sort o exprnce but jus people wer worried bout me teaching responsibly ha ha n not makin nse wit the music!!

nice thread

electron · 10-05-2003, 01:29 PM

okay
from a different perspective here

i have to buy my own health insurance because i'm now officially an expatirate ( i don't reside in a country where i am a citizen ) . I can get pretty decent coverage for getting sick and getting hit by a bus , and if i paid an extra $40 a month i could get extreme sport coverage , that would take care of me if i were snowboarding or hang gliding and so on . But it WILL not cover me for any injury recieved while doing an organized group activity unless it is one of the extreme sports specified in the added coverage .

Basically what this means , is that if i am breaking by myself or in a club spontaneously , then i may be able to finangle coverage . But if i go to an open practice or a class , i'm on my own and if i break my neck , it's my own damn problem.

So my point is , that your school may have liability worries , as well as being worried about having to answer to people who lump all of bbboying / graff/ gang activities together in to one huge " ghetto thing that is trendy right now " category .

I break too .I feel you . But you've got to also see the other side before you can go around spitting and pissing because somebody wasn't going to let you use their equipment and space for something . HOpefully your gym coach can help you out - probably there is a clause somewhere that specifies that any athletic club has to be supervised by a qualified adult .Insurance isn't any joke . Schools are lacking funding , they need to keep what they get and a lot of that has to do with pleasing superiors .

From your perspective , all that you can see is that your school , which makes you go there for 6 hours out of every day , won't let you do something you love , but from their perspective , they have to defend their choices to other organizations and leaders, and keep tabs on hundreds of kids , every day. It's not easy .

When i was 14, i started a dance program in my school - i taught ... we used the drama costume room , then a home ec room . It took me a year of negotiation with first of , high school counsellors, then some teachers , then finally the principal , before i could getit started , but when it did , i had gained the respect of most of the staff . What it takes is listening to their concerns , then trying to address each one of them and treat it as if you are solving problems, not just trying to get what you want with no concern for their side .

negotiate

good luck

Poppin Smurf · 10-05-2003, 01:39 PM

ha ha thats wrong but actually quite funny!!!
lol

sorry................... and cool at the same time!!! lol

Gaunt · 10-09-2003, 07:52 AM

Yeah I know this is an old post but I figure I might as well say something.

I been interested in hip hop and the various styles associated with it for a while and only recently (about a month ago) got into popping. At my school we have always had a couple breakers in my year level who would do some stuff out the back sometimes. This year we went up to the senior part of the school and we saw some guys practicing handstand freezes and so forth on the grass so I figured I could try and get a place for practice.

This is where it is alot different to your experiences. I just asked one of the teachers if we could use the gym at lunchtimes when there is nothing happening in there...they would let us in and let us do our thing. When we cant get in we go to the drama room or whatever. We have had teachers walk in and they dont care whether we are breaking or whatever else we are doing. We are starting a crew so that might allow us to book rooms or the gym like the other sports can do.

And I guess the same as everywhere, whenever someone hears music they go check it out. This brings about groups of spectators when most of the time we just practicin moves. However I had expected heaps of people who seem to appear in these groups such as your average "do a windmill" person who has no clue about breaking and the people who say breaking is gay or whatever. This was not the case with only 1 or 2 of these people so far. Most love it and ask how we do everything so it is becoming easier to bust where ever we are.

Well just thought I would add my piece.

peace

bboy_shockret · 10-09-2003, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by soctopus
slap him on the forhead with your dick, that will show him who's boss, after that moment you will own the skool

lol


Trainer Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 336 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Perth	10-03-2003, 02:19 AM yeah jman those ppl piss me offf the thing that pisses me off is that its ur own right, becoz its your own body its not the principals body so its not gonna cause harm to him, unless ur breakin in a crowded place where u can hurt others where as other juggling with knives or throwing a baseball around people could harm others around you, and a knife could even hurt you you have the right to do what you want with your own body in my opinion. i guess if you get injured the school are responsible in a way. but then again theres sports like rugby and football (aussie rules) which are way more dangerous the bboying ive been playing aussie rules for yrs now and ive had alot of bad injuries and i know that sports like that are way more fuckin dangerious than bboying
	This one time...this hot chick rings me up and says to me in a horny voice, ''Oh baby come over now, no ones home''.... So I went over to her house and no one was home..


e_tarobale Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: atl	10-03-2003, 10:34 PM some of the teachers in my school like it, some dont


murasaki0001 Twas brillig... Respect: 1 Posts: 305 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Indiana	10-03-2003, 11:41 PM all u ppl like "my teach does it" DANG! i wish . . .out here. . .dang. . .don no1 break. . .sux bad. . .cuz right now. . .i dont want nuttin more than another breaker out here. . .u guys are lucky. . .J MAN. .dont give up man! live the dream! ok. . tat was my dramatic moment . . enjoy
	Yours truly, Murasaki


Bb0Y FaYTh jersey underground Respect: 1.5 Posts: 329 Join Date: May 2003 Location: jersey up	10-04-2003, 12:41 AM ppl r either 1) amazed that u spin around or 2) knowing u still spin around. ppl dunt know culture. alotta ppl r dim and blinded by mainstream and stereotypical TRASH. bboys and bgirls deal wit and an keep reppin. battlin keeps dis art alive even tho its freakin massive in da underground scene
	I've trudged through the sediment in search of the rhythm Dove soul first to bathe nude in its abyss Paid dues and made music my religion Now I listen, close my eyes, and forget I even exist


BBoy_J-Man Member Respect: 2 Posts: 664 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Red Deer Alberta	10-04-2003, 03:04 AM fuck this man, I just wrote a big ass post but deleted it before I posted it because you aint worth it man... I'll just let you go on thinkin' whatever you want buddy... if you wanna laugh when I say breakers are discriminated then go chuckle in a corner by yourself, I don't care...
	www.siktrixcrew.com Reppin' Sik Trix Crew


Poppin Smurf Popping 4 AFRICA Respect: 1 Posts: 127 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beat Street	10-04-2003, 11:26 AM boy oh boy bboys gettin angry J-man has a good story there i had the same sort o exprnce but jus people wer worried bout me teaching responsibly ha ha n not makin nse wit the music!! nice thread
	There is only one GOD Love Him As He Loves You!!!! "Drink ARMI from 1 cup pass it around the room!!" BIG UP THE ROC. oh and ....... hip hop will neva die!!!!!!!


electron heavy rotation Respect: 2 Posts: 1,546 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: coming soon to an airport near you ...	10-05-2003, 01:29 PM okay from a different perspective here i have to buy my own health insurance because i'm now officially an expatirate ( i don't reside in a country where i am a citizen ) . I can get pretty decent coverage for getting sick and getting hit by a bus , and if i paid an extra $40 a month i could get extreme sport coverage , that would take care of me if i were snowboarding or hang gliding and so on . But it WILL not cover me for any injury recieved while doing an organized group activity unless it is one of the extreme sports specified in the added coverage . Basically what this means , is that if i am breaking by myself or in a club spontaneously , then i may be able to finangle coverage . But if i go to an open practice or a class , i'm on my own and if i break my neck , it's my own damn problem. So my point is , that your school may have liability worries , as well as being worried about having to answer to people who lump all of bbboying / graff/ gang activities together in to one huge " ghetto thing that is trendy right now " category . I break too .I feel you . But you've got to also see the other side before you can go around spitting and pissing because somebody wasn't going to let you use their equipment and space for something . HOpefully your gym coach can help you out - probably there is a clause somewhere that specifies that any athletic club has to be supervised by a qualified adult .Insurance isn't any joke . Schools are lacking funding , they need to keep what they get and a lot of that has to do with pleasing superiors . From your perspective , all that you can see is that your school , which makes you go there for 6 hours out of every day , won't let you do something you love , but from their perspective , they have to defend their choices to other organizations and leaders, and keep tabs on hundreds of kids , every day. It's not easy . When i was 14, i started a dance program in my school - i taught ... we used the drama costume room , then a home ec room . It took me a year of negotiation with first of , high school counsellors, then some teachers , then finally the principal , before i could getit started , but when it did , i had gained the respect of most of the staff . What it takes is listening to their concerns , then trying to address each one of them and treat it as if you are solving problems, not just trying to get what you want with no concern for their side . negotiate good luck
	you must have been a bgirl.... because the only moves that you pulled on me were heartbreakers - the visionaries


Poppin Smurf Popping 4 AFRICA Respect: 1 Posts: 127 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Beat Street	10-05-2003, 01:39 PM ha ha thats wrong but actually quite funny!!! lol sorry................... and cool at the same time!!! lol
	There is only one GOD Love Him As He Loves You!!!! "Drink ARMI from 1 cup pass it around the room!!" BIG UP THE ROC. oh and ....... hip hop will neva die!!!!!!!


Gaunt Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 36 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Melbourne	10-09-2003, 07:52 AM Yeah I know this is an old post but I figure I might as well say something. I been interested in hip hop and the various styles associated with it for a while and only recently (about a month ago) got into popping. At my school we have always had a couple breakers in my year level who would do some stuff out the back sometimes. This year we went up to the senior part of the school and we saw some guys practicing handstand freezes and so forth on the grass so I figured I could try and get a place for practice. This is where it is alot different to your experiences. I just asked one of the teachers if we could use the gym at lunchtimes when there is nothing happening in there...they would let us in and let us do our thing. When we cant get in we go to the drama room or whatever. We have had teachers walk in and they dont care whether we are breaking or whatever else we are doing. We are starting a crew so that might allow us to book rooms or the gym like the other sports can do. And I guess the same as everywhere, whenever someone hears music they go check it out. This brings about groups of spectators when most of the time we just practicin moves. However I had expected heaps of people who seem to appear in these groups such as your average "do a windmill" person who has no clue about breaking and the people who say breaking is gay or whatever. This was not the case with only 1 or 2 of these people so far. Most love it and ask how we do everything so it is becoming easier to bust where ever we are. Well just thought I would add my piece. peace

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