How long is too long?

flying_steps · **How long is too long? -** 02-09-2009, 05:57 AM

How long is too long before you should admit bboying just isn't your thing.

Physically and Mentally.

I've been bboying for 4 years now and the minimal amount of things i've achieved only include getting and losing windmills, basic foundational toprock and footwork (which is incomplete) and all of maybe 3-4 freezes.

Also I find it extremely hard to "express" myself through any means of art. Bboying being the particular art here. I have understood the concepts of musicality and style and all this stuff, but have never been able to come up with anything to show for it, least of all show i even understand it let alone a sentence or two describing them.

So how long is too long before one should just admit that they have wasted x amount of years of their life dedicating themselves to this and moving on, possibly nowhere or possibly to a new artform, maybe more successful, maybe worse.

This isn't another "tell me I shouldn't quit because im lacking confidence" or "I'm pretending to quit to gain attention or posts on this site" thread, its a genuine question im looking for answers to and opinions on the matter.

Peace.

LiL-Nadz · 02-09-2009, 06:24 AM

hmm...
i don't think there's any real time frame to know if your cut out to do somethin

If you love it, enjoy it and want to do it... why give it up?
I've seen your videos over the years and i'll be straight with you.. you don't progress really quickly.. hell i'm slower than a lot of people, i can admit it..

But i enjoy it and dedication pays off... so my advice..if you love it.. keep at it bro..

as for musicality... i'd recommend going to the popping and locking forums..read up on some insightful posts by inventfmc...
thats shit you'll never read on this part of the forums.. popping seems to let you identify with music in a different way..so maybe try that out?

peace.

flying_steps · 02-09-2009, 07:07 AM

k forgot to mention...

I don't enjoy the stuff im able to do because its boring. i wanna do more, better things. which im unable to do or even get close to.

BboyhaikuFC · 02-09-2009, 07:33 AM

when you start praticing without thinking bout it, and when you just do it and know inside you love it and are inspired

flying_steps · 02-09-2009, 07:35 AM

^^ i think u misunderstood the question.

Hyte · 02-09-2009, 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by flying_steps

k forgot to mention...

I don't enjoy the stuff im able to do because its boring. i wanna do more, better things. which im unable to do or even get close to.

What kind of moves do you want to be able to do that would make it less boring for you?
If you have a few specific moves you really want to learn then dedicate yourself and learn em, that way you'll have something you like to practice, to practice with the things you find boring. People learn at different rates, its normal, but if you really want something keep at it. You wouldn't have done this for 4 years if you didnt like it. Try practicing new stuff along with the old stuff to try and make practice more fun for you. Learn more, even if you don't think you can do certain things, take it slow. Bottom line is don't give up until you've tried a bunch of things and none of it works. B-boying should be fun, so if it's not fun right now, do something to make it fun

. B-boying with friends might help, try that.

Hopefully this answers your question.

MaDD · 02-09-2009, 08:56 AM

When you've given up on it. When it no longer fulfills you. When you no longer want to.

BbOyJeOpArDy · 02-09-2009, 09:25 AM

STFU AND DANCE ho!

Rubix · 02-09-2009, 10:07 AM

^^lol, priceless.

but seriously dude. You gotta be dedicated to learn the "better" moves... why? because they are better.

Just Do It.

peace easy

eddie07 · 02-09-2009, 10:10 AM

Originally Posted by MaDD

When you've given up on it. When it no longer fulfills you. When you no longer want to.

wat he said^^^

shigity · 02-09-2009, 02:11 PM

maybe you've gotten complacent? i learned windmills first and then flares were my second power move, so i can do those pretty easily. but being able to do those when i want to has made me feel like i SHOULDN'T have to work for my other moves- which is wrong. Thats why I used to despair when I felt like I wasn't getting any better. Thankfully, I have a sense of musicality now so dancing (whether its toprock, footwork, or power) is all fun for me. If you aren't dancing with other people, you should also do that. It's a better way to get yourself motivated, and they can help you too.

il.breaks · 02-09-2009, 02:55 PM

dude.... if that's all you can do and you've been at it for four years, assuming you don't have some kind of disability or something, or even if you have,

i think it's a pretty safe bet that you have not really put much into the dance.... i mean if you have not gotten mills in 4 years that to me screams you don't practice them..

you only get back relative to what you put in....

Freydom · 02-09-2009, 03:00 PM

When you think of bboying as a routine, a chore, something that seems like it's a nag to you. When you think about it you think of excuses of not to do it. So for say if you were going to session with friends, and then you think "No, I have homework to do."

When stuff like that happens, you know it's not going good.
But bboying is more of an independent effort, and it's all on YOU. Nobody can tell you what to do or what to think, so do what you want and forget about everything else. If it's time to stop, then stop. Do what's best for you.

Transcendent · 02-09-2009, 03:12 PM

If you don't like what you're doing, stop doing it. Try another style if you are really having that much trouble making progress and not enjoying yourself.

Honestly, some people just aren't meant to bboy. I tried it out but got to mills and discovered I just wasn't that dedicated. I converted to being a popper and I'm still getting down to this day.

Find the style for you, man.

Zulu Chibi · 02-09-2009, 03:48 PM

If thats all you have after 4 years, then breaking probably isn't for you. Maybe take up another dance. I'm sure you know dedication is the hardest part about breaking, but like someone might have already said just pick something you want to get down and focus on it. But I mean, its really up to you to decide what you want to do.


Freydom Tired. Respect: 2 Posts: 813 Join Date: Mar 2008	02-09-2009, 03:00 PM When you think of bboying as a routine, a chore, something that seems like it's a nag to you. When you think about it you think of excuses of not to do it. So for say if you were going to session with friends, and then you think "No, I have homework to do." When stuff like that happens, you know it's not going good. But bboying is more of an independent effort, and it's all on YOU. Nobody can tell you what to do or what to think, so do what you want and forget about everything else. If it's time to stop, then stop. Do what's best for you.
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flying_steps Searching for happiness// Respect: 5 Posts: 2,839 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne	How long is too long? - 02-09-2009, 05:57 AM How long is too long before you should admit bboying just isn't your thing. Physically and Mentally. I've been bboying for 4 years now and the minimal amount of things i've achieved only include getting and losing windmills, basic foundational toprock and footwork (which is incomplete) and all of maybe 3-4 freezes. Also I find it extremely hard to "express" myself through any means of art. Bboying being the particular art here. I have understood the concepts of musicality and style and all this stuff, but have never been able to come up with anything to show for it, least of all show i even understand it let alone a sentence or two describing them. So how long is too long before one should just admit that they have wasted x amount of years of their life dedicating themselves to this and moving on, possibly nowhere or possibly to a new artform, maybe more successful, maybe worse. This isn't another "tell me I shouldn't quit because im lacking confidence" or "I'm pretending to quit to gain attention or posts on this site" thread, its a genuine question im looking for answers to and opinions on the matter. Peace.
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LiL-Nadz Member Respect: 3.5 Posts: 743 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: sydney	02-09-2009, 06:24 AM hmm... i don't think there's any real time frame to know if your cut out to do somethin If you love it, enjoy it and want to do it... why give it up? I've seen your videos over the years and i'll be straight with you.. you don't progress really quickly.. hell i'm slower than a lot of people, i can admit it.. But i enjoy it and dedication pays off... so my advice..if you love it.. keep at it bro.. as for musicality... i'd recommend going to the popping and locking forums..read up on some insightful posts by inventfmc... thats shit you'll never read on this part of the forums.. popping seems to let you identify with music in a different way..so maybe try that out? peace.


flying_steps Searching for happiness// Respect: 5 Posts: 2,839 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne	02-09-2009, 07:07 AM k forgot to mention... I don't enjoy the stuff im able to do because its boring. i wanna do more, better things. which im unable to do or even get close to.
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BboyhaikuFC Member Respect: 1 Posts: 84 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Medford	02-09-2009, 07:33 AM when you start praticing without thinking bout it, and when you just do it and know inside you love it and are inspired


flying_steps Searching for happiness// Respect: 5 Posts: 2,839 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Melbourne	02-09-2009, 07:35 AM ^^ i think u misunderstood the question.
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shigity max power Respect: 4.5 Posts: 2,048 Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: san marino	02-09-2009, 02:11 PM maybe you've gotten complacent? i learned windmills first and then flares were my second power move, so i can do those pretty easily. but being able to do those when i want to has made me feel like i SHOULDN'T have to work for my other moves- which is wrong. Thats why I used to despair when I felt like I wasn't getting any better. Thankfully, I have a sense of musicality now so dancing (whether its toprock, footwork, or power) is all fun for me. If you aren't dancing with other people, you should also do that. It's a better way to get yourself motivated, and they can help you too.
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il.breaks Member Respect: 1.5 Posts: 130 Join Date: Jan 2008	02-09-2009, 02:55 PM dude.... if that's all you can do and you've been at it for four years, assuming you don't have some kind of disability or something, or even if you have, i think it's a pretty safe bet that you have not really put much into the dance.... i mean if you have not gotten mills in 4 years that to me screams you don't practice them.. you only get back relative to what you put in....


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