[kwon]

Im a newbie..but ive been practicing swipes and windmills. But one thing i cant do is the collasps for windmilling. fall too hard on my shoulder when i start the first rotation. But can any of you send me a video..or tell me ways and techniques to improve on collasps??

[deltron02]

no offense just by the numbers of post. have u learned ur toprock and 6-step yet

[kwon]

yeah i know how to do both..those were the first things i ever learned..yeah np..i am a newb here obviosly i hadnt made any posts yet. Right now i still need alil help on collapsing??

[kwang]

check my collapse guide

http://www.bboy.org/t65599/s.html

[kwon]

kk thanks..i will follow that guide. Thanks!

[Xero8]

make a pike