[beaniekapp]

just saw this one today and i wanna kno what buz and pjay would think... danny if ure still round... i wanna hear your thoughts on this too...



for one... thats not a rock song...!! the battle was alrite i guess... i watched it once and i felt that maxone took it... he was way more controlled and he was dancin better... machine did good... no lie... i kno he can do better with his freestyle... plus his burns were easy to recognize because he exaggerated them well... and of course no yerks on both sides... but it felt it was the song's fault on that... i think it would be a better battle if they played a real rock track... another thing i saw is some borderline bboyish... but again its the song... and one more... i recognize some burns here... hahaha...!! respect to maxone and machine for holdin it down with the rock dance in europe...!!

OH... did wary kno bout this too...? i wanna hear how the whole uprock comp went...

[Wary]

Sup Deephugz,
yeah I also saw that clip just recently.
I wasnt there since I live in the US now. It was @ Total Session, the same event King Uprock judged 2 years ago.
Apparently nothing has changed in France...
I`ve been told that the "uprock" contest was just a joke.
The dj ( Dj Goodka) who is an old school dj in France kept playing some Breakin`, some 90`s Hip Hop and even FunkStyles tracks. We already had a kinda argument with him 2 years ago. We tried to explain to him that in a Rocking contest, you should play some Rocking tracks and not mix them. But he was talking about "evolution", same story over and over again.
On style2ouf. com and he tried to justify himself, but just made a fool of himself again. Plus, the judges for that contest were the Bboy battle judges : Ness, David Colas and Freeze. I know that Ness is studying seriously the Rock Dance and I know that Freeze has some knowledge, but Im not that sure when it comes to David Colas ( he`s a dopeass old school bboy, dont get me wrong, but hes certainly not a Rocker) Anyway...
Regarding this battle, I dont consider it a Rocking battle, since the music wasnt appropriate. You can tell that both have an understanding of the dance, even if we dont see too many Jerks. I think it might be the best Rocking battle of that competition, even if it was a little bit Bboyish sumtimes.
Check the final battle :

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Let me kno what you guys think ( but I already got an idea lol)
just my 2 european cents ( = sumthing like 3 US cents haha)

pe@ce yall and lets keep the Rock Dance alive

[JiM D.]

i wanna see k-mel vs machine in a rock battle..lol

[Jimothy]

Maxone was entertaining, wasn't really feeling anyone else.

I don't know jack about uprock though.

[PJAY71]

My brother Wary said it all... he had to live with that BS for a while.

Only thing I can say is that I hate to see a dance I love so much misrepresented. That's why us true Rockers need to keep tight and rep this dance right!

DEFEND THE ROCK!

Thia is no disrespect to the dancers who entered.

Peace yall.

[beaniekapp]

wussup wary...!!
i remember rockin ya the 2nd day of mighty 4 over here in sf... it was fun dancin ya... and it helped me learn a bit more too... ive definitely learned alot more since then and improved... of course my studies aint fully complete till i pay my trip to BK...!! yea...!! hahaha...!!

anyways thanks for the input... and yea we do see that both do have knowledge of the dance... and i doubt there'd be anything better than what they did... and im surprised neither of em made it to finals... i bet both of em just left after that... hahah...!! and speakin of the finals... no disrespect to the dancers cuz im sure theyre just doin their thing... but all i saw was lazy looking toprocks with claps... elbow slaps... and arms waving around... hahahaha...!! and i stopped watching halfway... haha...!! i pray they kno wassup and what theyre doing and actually representing... cuz otherwise it would be misleading... and this is the final battle for cryin out loud...!! haha...!! and it kinda does suck that the scene is like that over there... cuz our djs over here know wassup... and they kno when to play it... which is even dope... i bet an apache line over there would look more like a mosh pit... hahahaha...!! all jokes of course...!!

but yea thanks again for the input... and yes this dance needs to be represented rite... especially for those who are misinformed... its like reteaching an adult who was taught and believed that 3+3=33... haha...!! well ill catch yall at the hodown...!! peace...!!

[BUZ]

well the way I see is that ,,what them cats were doing was the style that was represting there where ever that contest took place... is like back in the day we the rockers from bushwick never agree with the styles of East New York becaue them boys had a power style a style that they would represent themself so when you went there to ENY you had to deal with there style because that who they were and they were not going to bend over for no-one and they were not going to try to be like no-one else that was ENY whether you like it or not and also the same with red hook they also had a different style and also a different style of track and if we went there to battle them cats they had field adventage and it was what they put on the table you ate what was out on the plate or you can just reject it ...but my point here is that as long it represent the name and they don't name it breaklyn trying to change the original name is all good to me ... and about them judges today there are many rockers that can judge from the old school today and I here that 2 young lads to the dance that are not from the oldskool judging a contest at the hodown ... and I see no problem with that me being from the old skool so let it be... and it's why if anyone wants to put out some rock contest out there feel free to do so and contact judges like myself (Buz) Noel , P-jay - bandit - Cus - wary - rob nasty - tiny love - kenny - fable - trac - Deephugz - dirty - smooth , danny boy , numbers or anyone that has a knowledge of what they have seen when it comes to the dance rock ... never my intention to disrepect anyone on this topic but the rock dance needs to be expose more than what it is meaning people out there that are holding these bboy event should add rocking contest to most of these event.......

GOD BLESS MY BROTHERS........ STILL WAITING FOR YOU P-JAY TO COME UP AND DO SOME SKING...I HAVE THIS HUGE LIFE INSURANCE ON YOUR ASS.....LMAO..LOLOLOL...

BUZ TOUCH OF ROCK

[BUZ]

let me rephrase that when I said young lad I meant young as in the 1990generation as in younger generation would'nt want to cut down there talent !

buz tor.

myspace.com/touchofrockbk

[BBoy.Allycasta]

machine won and i bet i could bet machine in a rock battle man

[VicValSwift]

LOL.

Another one of your ridiculously hilarious, over-the-top, gut busting, knee slapping jokes, allycasta?

[beaniekapp]

Originally Posted by BBoy.Allycasta

machine won and i bet i could bet machine in a rock battle man

dont go claimin till i see it bruddah... hahaha...!!

anyways thanks for your input too buz... i nearly forgot the fact that there are diferent styles out there... different methods of doin things... like the difference in the way TOR and Dynasty would do a side yerk for example... but all in all... if still done rite... it is still what it is supposed to be... the rock dance...!! to me as long as i see these 3 elements of it which is... freestyle... yerks... and burns... its the rockin thing yo...!! plus theres different individual styles along with... like comparing buz... breakeasy... RC... lil dave... its all rocking... but its different flavas...!! and i can see that among our crew as well if i compare myself to rob... rocko... raff... and smokey... were all different flavas but still doin the rock...

thanks again for the input buz... id give it lke another year or 2 to see real rock contests in bboy events... and about 4 more... till its just a rockin contest on its own... now that would be dope... cuz we got real cats learnin the real thing... and would be dope to see when they improved and decipher it all down...

[PJAY71]

Good post Buz and you're right. HOWEVER, even though various BK hoods had different styles, they all had the one major element in Rock and that's the Jerk. They all had soild, stylish Jerks that flowed with Burns and Freestyle. Also, the DJ's knew what to play and the dancers knew the music! Those elements cannot be missed or it's not gonna be Rocking... sorry! Once again, this is not an attack or dis on the cats who entered that contest but everyone who wants to get down with Rocking MUST get the Jerks looking tight. Trust me, you want cats to look at you and say "Damn, look at that cat Uprock!" and not "What's that nigga doing... trying to Uprock?" I hope y'all feel me... I'm really just trying to help y'all all out, as well as, the scene.

Peace

[BUZ]

Excellent respond P-jay there are three element to this dance YERK , BURN , MUSIC
and p-jay hit it right on the nose when he mention the yerk is the major element of this dance because when I look at them cats it looks like they are trying really hard to add the main ingridient to there moves which is the yerk...so everyone should really focus on learning the foundation of the yerk and than after they get the basic they can create the style they want as long as it comes with the form of yerking.... you know I never met p-jay up until I went to this dolar jam I looked at the cat and I try so hard to figure out who he was from the old days and I could'nt picture him from back in the days ...and what got me in deep thought about who he was from the old days was the style of dancing well not much the style because like I said ENY had a way different style and style of there own But the yerk he was doing had the same foundation as anyone that did the rock dance from the 1970's when I saw him Yerking I went up to noel and asked him ... who was the big guy with the tail and what crew did he road in the 1970 and he told me P-jay he was from ENY what threw me off was that he had established the bushwick style the smooth style compare to the power style of ENY but I knew he was from the old skool when I first saw him dance... as if you look at Wary he has a pretty cool style a style of his own and he's a great rocker and he mixes it with the oldskool style but if you look at P-jay and Wary rock you can tell that P-jay is from the oldskool as well as comparing him with break easy ,
rob nasty, bandit , and moon criket,,,

what is a Yerk ???

the Yerk is the main source of the dance Rocking aka up-rocking a dance thet I have seen for the first time while living in Bklyn a dance that has a history broken down from the days of the outlaws... as you can see the resembling from the apachie line a word that was use as being anitiated while being beat up durring the gang days..well anyway the apachie line it's almost look like they are fighting in a rumble with the shooting , kicking, and stabing.....

anyway going back to the what's a yerk.. a yerk is when you fold your body going all the way down in a snaping form back and forward .. it's almost like locking your joints in your body starting with (#1) a grab and your chest snaping forward than (#2) your back snaping back than (#3) your hips and knees snaping forward than (#4) your butt and the back of your knees snaping back But doing all this motion on your toes !!!

than you can add instead of the grab you can choose to hit , shoot. or stab ....

unless you start with a kick back yerk ... sorry enough can't go there ..lolol.. I'll leave that up to P-jay !unless he decide to pitty your brain and let it cool down...

BUZ TOR
myspace.com/touchofrockbk

[PJAY71]

Word'em up Buz. Thanks for the dance props... it really means a lot coming from you dog.

The clip you put on You Tube is perfect for anyone who wants to get the basics of Rocking. I strongly suggest that everyone studies it. Then when you get it down, you can add your flavor to it and make it your own so it will fit the way you dance... or else you'll look like Buz and he won't like that, lol.

Also, whoever has King Uprocks' DVD "Rockers Revenge", NEEDS to go back and watch this part. It's where the OG's are doing an Apache Line showcase at the Zulu Anniversary. There's Mr. Loose, Breakeasy, Noel, Danny Boy, Clarkie, King Uprock, Lil Dave, Spice and Burn One. That in my opinion is the highlight of the entire DVD. Here you have Born to Rock, Dynasty Rockers, Touch of Rock, Dynamic Spinners, Lil Dave Rockers, Floor Master Dancers and All Star Dancers All these dope dancers from legendary Brooklyn Rock Crews goin off. Shit, talk about the different BK hood styles... you got it right there! Then when the break hits, BOOM, all the brothers get down with Jerks and Burns. If you look closely you'll see Breakeasy vs. Mr. Loose and then towards the end Noel vs. King Uprock. You'll see them exchanging Burns while Jerking... the way it's suppose to be done kiddies!

Okay... I gots to get back to work, lol... PEACE!

[BUZ]

[quote=PJAY71;893360]

The clip you put on You Tube is perfect for anyone who wants to get the basics of Rocking. I strongly suggest that everyone studies it. Then when you get it down, you can add your flavor to it and make it your own so it will fit the way you dance... or else you'll look like Buz and he won't like that, lol.

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excelent point P-jay you are right it's really important that you develope your own style but using the foundation of the yerks ..




BUZ TOUCH OF ROCK..