Discussion of Toprock Concepts... - Page 2

Venilla · 04-22-2009, 07:42 PM

I...
freestyle.
try something new.
instead of doing the same thing over and over again...i think in my head "Oh, maybe i should try going to the left instead of the right this time".
Stuff like that.
In order to learn new things, you have to try it.
You can't think in your head and be able to do it just like that.
But yeah...
99.98% of the times, practice is usually the answer. xP

AnJo · 04-22-2009, 08:00 PM

I don't think I saw anyone say something about doubling up your steps and you don't always have to make your tops crazy complicated. You can make simple steps look really good if you use different levels and just dance with your whole body.

beaniekapp · 04-22-2009, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by AnJo

I don't think I saw anyone say something about doubling up your steps and you don't always have to make your tops crazy complicated. You can make simple steps look really good if you use different levels and just dance with your whole body.

bro i wholeheartedly agree with you bout the making simple steps looking really good... to me thats the challenge really... i be seeing guys go off putting alot of energy into their movements from being too fast and looking sloppy and not even listening to the music... i like to call guys like that sprinters... haha...!!

another thing i leanred on how to make simple steps look good is FORM...!! gotta have it and it helps you understand your body more like what is your arm doing during this step... is it dead...? is it placed...? i find things like that important because it adds to presentation...

well heres another thing id like to add... i cant remember if i mentioned this in anotehr thread or so... but anyways it's KICK STEPS...!! otherwise known as ball and chain or whatever...

its practically taking all your steps and applying kick steps to every single one... it will give a bouncier feeling... especially if you know how to lean with a step... a dope thing to do with the hands while doing kick steps is disco rolling and pumping out with your hands...

of course you can apply the other concepts i mentioned as well at the same time...

this thread is going good... i appreciate everybody's input... lets keep it going... peace...!!

beaniekapp · 04-27-2009, 05:03 PM

so i guess no one else wants to drop anything...? peace...!!

demonhand · 04-27-2009, 05:22 PM

Lol, so sad. I'm sure you'd get more hits if you made a "Discussion of airchair concepts" thread.

RIP, toprock thread.

artoooor · 04-27-2009, 05:44 PM

oo toprocking. anyways from what i've learned from experience is that the 2 step is the key to every toprock step. it is the most simple, and when used correctly looks the best. changing the speed, length of step, power of the step makes the most simple step look hella nice.

artoooor · 04-27-2009, 05:44 PM

that being said..live on top rock thread haha

cHo¢KoLaTe · 04-27-2009, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by beaniekapp

so i guess no one else wants to drop anything...? peace...!!

Yeah, people are too busy saying who their favorite bboys are and shit lol.

Venilla · 04-27-2009, 05:56 PM

yay long lives toprock thread?
i don't even know what 2-step is. xD

DIZ-EAZ · 04-27-2009, 06:10 PM

This may only work for me, or maybe everyone else already does this. But when I hit a plateau while practicing "tops" I take off my shoes and practice on carpet. Practicing in the garage or outside is useful for cleaning up your dance and everything but, for me, its severly limiting when trying to expand my tops.
After that I practice with shoes on again in the garage and try to get my new tops as clean as they were on carpet.
I'm no master or anything, actually I've only been bboying for 6 months, however, I have spent a lot of time experimenting with my tops and this has helped me the most in improving.

artoooor · 04-27-2009, 06:24 PM

Originally Posted by Venilla

yay long lives toprock thread?
i don't even know what 2-step is. xD

when your one leg steps in front or across your other leg and vice versa...

Venilla · 04-27-2009, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by artoooor

when your one leg steps in front or across your other leg and vice versa...

Like...battle rock? O_o
Doesn't matter, Kick-step all the way. hahahaha

artoooor · 04-27-2009, 06:28 PM

no....and it does matter..if you understand the "4 corners" concept, then it is the first 2 corners in front.

beaniekapp · 04-27-2009, 09:38 PM

artoor knows wussup with the 4 corners... as for the 2 step artoor is mentioning... i know it as the "indian step" actually... different vocabulary but i know what hes talking about so its no problem...

the 2 step i know is actually just stepping side to side... its something even wallflowers can do... from a standstill postition with feet together... then step to the side with whateveer leg... then the other leg will follow puttin you into another spot with feet together again...

artoor i believe you just took an uprock workshop crazysmooth right...? heres something i learned from king uprock... but its actually meant for how to groove with the 2 step... and thats the usage of the UPPER BODY...

its practically music theory... but using the 2 step...
take a 1 2 3 4 type of beat...

whole notes - step every 4th beat...
half notes - step every 2nd beat...
quarter notes - step every beat...
sixteenths - double step every beat...

of course when doing this you have to rock or sway your upper body and use it as a metronome for staying on beat... and then youre grooving...!! hahaha...!!

hopefully every one can understand it and like i said... concepts can be used to everything...!! ill drop more if more contribute... peace...!!

skatman · 04-27-2009, 11:56 PM

fill a hat with different scenarios.....
bank robber
ground is hot
popeye
tall
short
sneaky
jumpy
wobbly
etc......
rotate scenarios every 2 min of tops......
good for character building and developing handstyles.....

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Venilla You Got Served, Cold Respect: 3.5 Posts: 1,379 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gainesville	04-22-2009, 07:42 PM I... freestyle. try something new. instead of doing the same thing over and over again...i think in my head "Oh, maybe i should try going to the left instead of the right this time". Stuff like that. In order to learn new things, you have to try it. You can't think in your head and be able to do it just like that. But yeah... 99.98% of the times, practice is usually the answer. xP
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AnJo Member Respect: 1.5 Posts: 61 Join Date: Apr 2008	04-22-2009, 08:00 PM I don't think I saw anyone say something about doubling up your steps and you don't always have to make your tops crazy complicated. You can make simple steps look really good if you use different levels and just dance with your whole body.
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beaniekapp Forever We Rock Respect: 3 Posts: 603 Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Francisco	04-27-2009, 05:03 PM so i guess no one else wants to drop anything...? peace...!!


demonhand Bruises Easily Respect: 2 Posts: 1,248 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Toronto	04-27-2009, 05:22 PM Lol, so sad. I'm sure you'd get more hits if you made a "Discussion of airchair concepts" thread. RIP, toprock thread.
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artoooor A Tribe Called Storm Respect: 5 Posts: 1,076 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: surrey!	04-27-2009, 05:44 PM oo toprocking. anyways from what i've learned from experience is that the 2 step is the key to every toprock step. it is the most simple, and when used correctly looks the best. changing the speed, length of step, power of the step makes the most simple step look hella nice.
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artoooor A Tribe Called Storm Respect: 5 Posts: 1,076 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: surrey!	04-27-2009, 05:44 PM that being said..live on top rock thread haha
	check out my 5 year trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNPGRoq4Ptg "Real hiphop does not discriminate. Real hip hop is all cultures put together in one. Its about peace, unity, love, and having fun under the oneness of God, no matter what god you pray to."-poe1


Venilla You Got Served, Cold Respect: 3.5 Posts: 1,379 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gainesville	04-27-2009, 05:56 PM yay long lives toprock thread? i don't even know what 2-step is. xD
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DIZ-EAZ Member Respect: 1 Posts: 43 Join Date: Apr 2009	04-27-2009, 06:10 PM This may only work for me, or maybe everyone else already does this. But when I hit a plateau while practicing "tops" I take off my shoes and practice on carpet. Practicing in the garage or outside is useful for cleaning up your dance and everything but, for me, its severly limiting when trying to expand my tops. After that I practice with shoes on again in the garage and try to get my new tops as clean as they were on carpet. I'm no master or anything, actually I've only been bboying for 6 months, however, I have spent a lot of time experimenting with my tops and this has helped me the most in improving.
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artoooor A Tribe Called Storm Respect: 5 Posts: 1,076 Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: surrey!	04-27-2009, 06:28 PM no....and it does matter..if you understand the "4 corners" concept, then it is the first 2 corners in front.
	check out my 5 year trailer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lNPGRoq4Ptg "Real hiphop does not discriminate. Real hip hop is all cultures put together in one. Its about peace, unity, love, and having fun under the oneness of God, no matter what god you pray to."-poe1


beaniekapp Forever We Rock Respect: 3 Posts: 603 Join Date: May 2007 Location: San Francisco	04-27-2009, 09:38 PM artoor knows wussup with the 4 corners... as for the 2 step artoor is mentioning... i know it as the "indian step" actually... different vocabulary but i know what hes talking about so its no problem... the 2 step i know is actually just stepping side to side... its something even wallflowers can do... from a standstill postition with feet together... then step to the side with whateveer leg... then the other leg will follow puttin you into another spot with feet together again... artoor i believe you just took an uprock workshop crazysmooth right...? heres something i learned from king uprock... but its actually meant for how to groove with the 2 step... and thats the usage of the UPPER BODY... its practically music theory... but using the 2 step... take a 1 2 3 4 type of beat... whole notes - step every 4th beat... half notes - step every 2nd beat... quarter notes - step every beat... sixteenths - double step every beat... of course when doing this you have to rock or sway your upper body and use it as a metronome for staying on beat... and then youre grooving...!! hahaha...!! hopefully every one can understand it and like i said... concepts can be used to everything...!! ill drop more if more contribute... peace...!!


skatman Member Respect: 2 Posts: 172 Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Flava Florida	04-27-2009, 11:56 PM fill a hat with different scenarios..... bank robber ground is hot popeye tall short sneaky jumpy wobbly etc...... rotate scenarios every 2 min of tops...... good for character building and developing handstyles.....