[Basick]

i'm tryin 2 do shoulder spins from mills nd i stab w/my right but everytime i collapse onto my shoulder i immediately go into a backspin. and hints or tips?

[metheores]

u backspin first... with the momentum go to a shoulder freeze by getting higher on ur back into ur shoulder...and if u have good momentum u should be able to spin- on ur shoulder, thus having a shoulder spin

[D.n.A]

I think he's trying to do a shoulder spin on the same arm as he stabs.
An important thing is to kick LOW.

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[Basick]

thnx but i can do that already. i mean... u kno wen you collapse into a mill? i'm talkin bout at that point i'm tryin 2 go into the shoulder spin. not backspin into the shoulder spin. lol thnx 4 tryin 2 help anyway. but the problem is i keep falling into a backspin not a shoulder spin.

[Basick]

thnx 2 metheores nd D.n.A but D.n.A wat do u mean by kick low? lik do u mean don't kick my right leg so that i don't go onto my back?

[D.n.A]

Yeah, kick your right leg low lol
Try to keep your left leg low too, not as important as right leg though. Just try preventing your left leg from going too much to the back.

[Basick]

iight i got it .lol thnx again to the both of you.

[mad.mdx]

sometimes when i mess up my mills i end up doing shoulder spin=/
i think i do because when i try to turn back to freeze, i kick my right leg (cw) real high, but i dont swing my other leg under and all it does is get me on my head/shoulder and i spin like half a turn

might not be the best way, but works a bit

[Bboy Chris-Cross]

man i do my shoulder spins from shoulder freeze but get a half rotation and having to whip again got 3/4th spin once but always gotta whip can never get more.

[D.n.A]

Lol can you windmill faster if you start from the collapse position or if you get into a handglide freeze, wind up and collapse?
Exactly.. the last one lol.

Try the same thing, but instead of collapsing, get on your shoulder and spin. Could get you at least one full rotation.