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listening to the music ? - 04-05-2008, 08:03 PM

can someone teach me how to listen to the music ?


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Just for clarification, all flames and hatred have been commented out. At assads request, which makes complete sense, this is a valid topic, and important. Therefore, carry on.

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Last edited by Chippa : 04-07-2008 at 08:57 PM. Reason: clarification
 
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04-05-2008, 08:32 PM

i don't want to say thats a tall and ridiculous order, but it is

"Listening to the music" is the definition of ambiguity. There are so many aspects of it that you can choose to ride; the claps, the bass, the little kinky noises, and even the lyrics. I think what matters in the end is your preference. YOU choose which one(s) you want to explore. We can always say, "you aren't moving with the music", but that doesn't mean the part you decide to move with is wrong.

And again, listening to music comes down to the individual's personality. Personally, i love a tight bass. We can't teach you to "listen to music" because its like teaching someone how to "develop their own style". It's contradictory of what dancing is: self expression.
 

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04-05-2008, 10:27 PM

arrite thanks funkymonkey
 

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04-05-2008, 10:40 PM

Ehhhh..I don't really know how to explain this..I mean, it should really just come natural..

I think funkymonkey said it best..

"We can't teach you to "listen to music" because its like teaching someone how to "develop their own style". It's contradictory of what dancing is: self expression."

It pretty much comes down to you..

I guess you can start off by finding an easier song to dance to ...The one you used the other day was kinda hard like everyone said..Use a much slower song and try hitting the bass and claps..When you get used to doing that, you can add some flavor to it and make it your own ..

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04-06-2008, 07:28 AM

Aighty firstly. no homo on ,"the little kinky noises" from funkymonkey.

secondly, wise words from Chippy "Anybody can listen to the music, but whether u can express it properly with ur current level in popping is different".

Basically speaking, if u dont no how good ur musicality is, or even just what musicality is to begin with (and chippa has said numerous times, that it is NOT knowing a song), u should focus on the claps only.

now how to listen to the music, some things i usually concentrate on (and this is probably why ppl always say i think too much when i dance):

1. The clap itself
How loud is it? Obviously, the louder the clap, the harder u should hit to emphasise the loud sound, u wouldnt wanna do a piss-weak hit on a huge blow-up).
How often does it repeat?
Is the clap the central part of the song, or does it seem to have a secondary priority in comparison to other parts of the music? Hence, ur dancing should readjust itself to suit the other parts of the music.

2. The genre/feeling of the music itself: Now to ask urself, what styles u should do in the music. Is the music pure funk, is it glitchy type of music, is it plain hip hop? I wont tell u which styles u should associate with which music since thats ur dance.

3. Lyrically, what does the music tell u? What mood is the song in? Hence ur dancing should be, for example, much softer to love songs, and faster and more erratic in hard techno.

i will write more, but i'll let chippa correct if im wrong.
 

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04-06-2008, 09:27 AM

Good post.

"secondly, wise words from Chippy "Anybody can listen to the music, but whether u can express it properly with ur current level in popping is different". "

This is how I've been feeling recently. Gets on my nerves. There's too much general advice out there.
 
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04-06-2008, 09:35 AM

haha, by "kinky" i meant the weird noises that some artists use (e.g. Aphex Twins have a crapload of them).
but kinky works just as well =D
 

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04-06-2008, 11:10 AM

dt dancer! well said

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yea dude you think too much just shutup and dance lol
 

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04-06-2008, 11:20 AM

Step 1:
Take a basic music theory class.

If you don't want to do that... then look this stuff up, and get an understanding of all this...
Measure
Beat
Common Time
Pulse
Notes (and the various lengths)
Rhythm
Melody
Harmony
(Be able to distinguish those last two when you are listening to something)

EVERYONE here should have a basic understanding of these things. These are the foundations of ALL music. If you understand them, it makes listening to the music easier. It also improves your understanding of the STRUCTURE of a song and will help your ability to interpret the sounds you hear.

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04-07-2008, 05:05 AM

And I reiterate:

Take a basic music theory class.

If you don't want to do that... then look this stuff up, and get an understanding of all this...
Measure
Beat
Common Time
Pulse
Notes (and the various lengths)
Rhythm
Melody
Harmony
(Be able to distinguish those last two when you are listening to something)

EVERYONE here should have a basic understanding of these things. These are the foundations of ALL music. If you understand them, it makes listening to the music easier. It also improves your understanding of the STRUCTURE of a song and will help your ability to interpret the sounds you hear.

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04-07-2008, 07:45 AM

There is a difference between HEARING the music, and LISTENING to it.

Hearing - You know it's there, you can hear it.

Listening - You know it's there, You're concentrating it. You being to understand its patterns and rythms.

extremely basic summary lol. Make sure you strive to achieve the latter. I could go on for a while about music counting it, but that would bore you.
 

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04-07-2008, 12:28 PM

You know guys.

There are people out there that don't care to learn. Don't care to better themselves. Don't care if they're wrong.

That is the definition of an ignorant person. It's not someone who is unintelligent, its the person who choses apathy towards everything that can give them a more fulfilled life.

Bboybreakthru is apparently only 15 (so he says in his profile). He doesn't even know how to find the junk in his pants yet... so I wouldn't expect him to think about music on a level that would make him an incredible dancer. I'm sure he's got all the dudes and chicks jockin him at his high school, inflating his ego, stroking ALMOST as much as he strokes his wang while his mom's making jello in the kitchen...

But it doesn't matter, cuz he can find the beat.

But he can't find the bass. The snare, the horns, the keyboard, the strings, the piano, the lyrics, the cowbell.
He can't find the funk.
Because he feels "it isn't that serious."

Good luck being a dancer breakthru. You claim to be a stylehead. Style ain't SHIT if you can't rock the MUSIC.

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04-07-2008, 12:53 PM

you gotta point there inventfmc
but style does matter also!
but that depends on what syle we r talkin about
im talkin bout foundation/style!
if ya got good style, you cant lose bro!
get what i am sayin???
so letz not hate on other bboyz!
love you all!!! lol

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04-07-2008, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by Bboy-LoVe View Post
if ya got good style, you cant lose bro!
maybe in a battle where no music is played son...

I dont care how AMAZING your style is, if you cant DANCE, you SHOULDNT win a battle. Ever.

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04-07-2008, 02:00 PM

invent and chip are the only ones who have offered anything intelligent to say in this thread.

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