[in-pulse]

Originally Posted by dtdancer With my extensive knowledge, its the PORN STAR that DOES THE SEX in the porn films, the PORN DIRECTOR makes the film (unless this happens to be a POV thing) in which case its an expection. And porn stars actually get paid on returnability so its more like the music business than anything else (girls get paid a lot more than guys who act like statues basically) doofus invent but hes right about the connection.

You have extensive knowledge on the porn industry? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

[poppinbboy]

this thread otta be a sticky .. im tripping out on the info here, thx HEAPS to Inventfmc

its opened my eyes, so mch info to grab, n then to take it on ur own in ur own perspective as a serious note.

[benjaminlibl]

Originally Posted by in-pulse You have extensive knowledge on the porn industry? Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

Perhaps he IS the director.

[HKflame]

I have something to say invent... Firstly, the more i dance the more i actually begin to understand why ppl is saying dance to express not to impress... It is actually VERY VERY VERY hard to understand this unless there are ppl around you that understand it or some1 to shine the way. You and chippa are the two ppl who shined my way for this, i thank you for this.

Now.. i want to input my Expierience into this thread hoping to help any1 out there.
I've been playing the piano since i can remeber, my family is a music family so yea, i played at a very very young age (my mum even took her final music test when i was 5 months old).. so yea i've lived with music all through my life.. i stopped playing the piano in grade 11 because i did not want to take any more exams(i was at grade 4 piano in aus when i stopped but believe me, i was far surpassed that)... I was actually quite talented in expression of music (not being up myself) but i only liked playing trendy slow rnb songs or pop songs... i really felt that type of music..
Anyways relating to popping..
I see popping as an art as i'm sure many of you do too. The first MOST important thing i reckon ppl who are trying to understand musicality and feeling is to actually learn how to seperate the difference between some1 with gd musicality is and bad musicality is. This is exactly the same as piano as in popping, in piano you can have some1 who plays with perfect technique, not missed a beat and hammered every note right... but is he the best???.. i dont' think so.. the better piano player will change the pace of the music, still play every single note BUT still express the music. In piano, i was so in depth with every piece i played, that i actually find background information, history and author's details for the songs. Every information counts. For example, fur elise... the writer intended it to be for a women (translation For Elise).. this paticular piece takes you through a journey of that story. LITERALLY. When you listen to gd piano players play, they take you through a journey, it's an expierience to be actually listening...
In DANCING (not just popping) you INTEPRET the music and then EXPRESS it.! you may not know the history of the song BUT every part of the music will help you intepret the music. by intepreting i do not mean hitting the beats. When you listen to music, it is gd to be able to pick out certain parts of the music (eg: high hats, melody, harmony singers, the bell sound that comes in a while etc.) BUt it is more important to hear it as a whole and let the music flow through your body and enjoy it! Hear it as a whole, and then do wat it tells you. A gd starting point is acutally just staying on the clap and the bass (BUT not hitting the bam bam bam bams or the clap clap clap clap, i mean the 1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8 beats)
I struggled really hard with dancing because i wanted to express the music., but the way i did it all through my life was actually playing it on the piano so yea, i'm still not that gd at it.
Invent is saying that you should learn basic music APPRECIATION... because it is helpful... You dance to music, if you can't even appreciate it then how can you move to it and let it control you? I may not be the best person to trust because of my ability in popping right now but i'm 100% sure that by learning basic music theory or even learning how to play an instrument will help... It will help you understand music and like invent says, it's a weapon... But Even futhur from that, music is what (for me anyways) releases me into this zone where i just float lightly and i'm in my own world in the music. Anyways i hope wat i wrote make sense, english is my second language so yea, i'm not that gd at writingTt.TT
ps: i'll keep adding to this thread whenever i think of something new... i can't just sit here at 12:30 in the night and put down everything i want to write lol

[HKflame]

one more thing.. How to know when you actually appreciate music or not? it's when your emotions change when you listen to watever song it is.... Then you express that emotion by Dancing

[InventFMC]

Originally Posted by HKflame You dance to music, if you can't even appreciate it then how can you move to it and let it control you?

DAMN FOOOOOLLL!!!!!!!!! Besides myself and Chip... that's probably the best damn thing ever said about music and musicality on ALL the forums I've read!!!


Thank you very much for your story HK. You got it right with what youre feeling and trying to do. Just keep working at it, and you'll get it...


On an interesting note, I was at a Rennie Harris masterclass and he was teaching house (unfortunately I only got to watch the class), and he said towards the end some words about expressing the song and matching your dance with the song. He actually recommended researching the songs to discover more about them. The particular one he used was a guy singing about losing his love and how he struggles to go on (and it was a true story about the composer/singer of the song).

GREAT POST!!!

[InventFMC]

Oh... and also...
Yeah it is great to develop your sense of art when you have others around you that can help, guide, and inspire. But straight up bro, I never had that.
Yeah I live in Cali and there's a lot of dope poppers here...

But there's only a handful in the world that are on the path that I am on.

You need to be careful in who you watch (ie- this is a generalization but... the korean cats have false musicality). I woulda dare to say that all the boog cats... nope... they don't have it. BUT IT'S POSSIBLE WITH BOOG!!! Especially with how that style is so perfect for sitting in the beat, you can ride out rhythms easily (but 99% of people boog wrong or just copy Sam and don't add their own to it...not to mention they don't know real musicality).

Someone like Frantick... I know he can make it do what it do with musicality and form. That man makes it an art. Chip... he makes it an art too... Pandora... makes it an art... Jrock, makes it an art (when he makes great clips like the Jrock for AJ clip...). I'm sure Boogie IQ makes it an art, cuz that dude is smart on really on his...

It'll all come together... sooooooooon....

[HKflame]

Dude thanks man just trying to help out the forum and learn more at the same time..

i reckon there's more then a handful of ppl that is on the same path as you, i think when you actually know musicality and know feeling so well.... you just dont' really care about posting a clip on youtube or not because ppl dont' understand it... I can 100% say that 1 year ago if i watched chip's recent waving clip i would have just thought, that was stupid.. he just stayed on beat and didn't hit any sounds.. this is how most poppers think because this is how most poppers are taught to think...this seems to happen especially when poppers only have internet as a resource.

damn man i cannot believe that there are other ppl who think this way thanks invent.
ps: if you watch my round 1 against illusion, you can see that i haven't been able to transfer this knowledge into my dancing yetTt.TT

invent do you have hotmail or aim or something? i want to talk to you about wat you said about boogaloo ngngng

[InventFMC]

my aim is up here...
watchinventpop

my hotmail...
watchinventpop@hotmail.com

[uBo]

hey, invent do you care if i hit you up ? for any advice or w/e on aim ?

[InventFMC]

that's why i make it available...

[poppinbboy]

thx Invent for adding me.. woot

[poppinbboy]

i checked all those things invent you posted about music on the 1st page.

and i understand now lol.....

makes it a lot easier once u understand what music means in definition.

[BooGieBart]

Great thread

[thrillavanilla]

Originally Posted by InventFMC Love, you're misinterpreting my words. To me style is above ANY tricks. But your style doesn't mean anything if you can't rock it to the music. You can have the best style abilities in the world, but if you can't sync it with the music, you're not dancing. You're just moving. And yes, I can knock on bboys, because even a lot with style don't know how to listen to the music and use the music as an extention of their moves. Look: You're moves are a weapon. The music is a weapon also. You're moves are like a machine gun. You can kill, but you'll run out of bullets. Use the music, it's like a napalm bomb. It does a lot of damage, but it's area is limited. Use your moves WITH the music, it's like a nuclear bomb. Not only will you flatten everything within a 20 mile radius, but you'll continue killing for decades past when you rocked it that one moment in time. Invent

dude. that's heavy. did you make that up your self? or like take it from a movie or something cuz thats some crazy intuitive shit.