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12-07-2006, 05:14 AM

ok

a lotta ppl dont know this, but they found out that the stadium that junior did it in had condensed air

meaning, the molecules in the air were more compact, so it was harder to move through

so it's kind of like moving through water - there's lag but it supports you

so basically, that's what helped him do all those impossible moves - think about it, those are easy as hell underwater, and that's basically what he's doing

the condensed air is like water, making it all easier for him

it also explains some slo-mo parts, but the others were just edited

but yeah, condensed air = planches.




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12-07-2006, 05:49 AM

it's too bad that breathing condensed air = death.

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12-07-2006, 09:26 AM

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ok

a lotta ppl dont know this, but they found out that the stadium that junior did it in had condensed air

meaning, the molecules in the air were more compact, so it was harder to move through

so it's kind of like moving through water - there's lag but it supports you

so basically, that's what helped him do all those impossible moves - think about it, those are easy as hell underwater, and that's basically what he's doing

the condensed air is like water, making it all easier for him

it also explains some slo-mo parts, but the others were just edited

but yeah, condensed air = planches.
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12-07-2006, 09:47 AM

lmao condensed air. me and a whole lot of ppl can do those push ups boi. ima put a video up soon. ohh ya and i'll do it out side with no condensed air lol. as for the slo-mo parts, theres no edits, thats air swinging. which means he uses his hands to support him self and he has enough strength to slowly move his legs about him self. but when hes floating in the air, the video is slowed down by like wut...5% to make it seem fluent. peace




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12-07-2006, 10:20 AM

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it's too bad that breathing condensed air = death.

RIP JUNIOR
lol,thats y,if wut bboy jeopardy said is true,then every ppl would died there,isnt it?

plus even the theory he said is true,it could only help a bit..but as u c,its still requiring alot of str(if u r gona to hold them or push up)and wrist flexiblity.Cuz they arent really WATER!well,this is only my opinion,u can oways prove me wrong




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12-07-2006, 11:24 AM

Isnt the video just edited clips from the Red Bull BC1 2005? Im loving the condensed air theory though, its the most imaginitive BS i have heard in a long time. Condensed air.. i mean come on it would have to be under high pressure to condense it because as a mixture of gas its nature means it will take on the shape of the stadium. This would actually technically make it alot harder for him to do the moves. The stadium has like a 100ft ceiling ... hes what ... 2ft from the floor. So the 2ft of condensed air is gonna somehow counter the massive weight from 100ft of condensed air (which would weigh more in kg/cm that normal air) that is bearing down on him? On the other hand .. if you were just joking ... hah funny stuff.




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12-07-2006, 01:21 PM

Junior does them on his fingers!
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12-07-2006, 06:52 PM

if the air was condensed to be like water, then it would turn to liquid...like water lol...

then the air would be a puddle on the ground

maybe

haha cool theory though
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12-07-2006, 09:25 PM

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i think the dragondoor article focuses TOO MUCH on progression. i just jumped into that shit and it worked fine. just don't be a pussy about it and lean the fuck forward.

the thing about weight lifting is that you get EXTRA muscle training, in addition to the ones needed for bboying. it's like economics, man, it's all about efficiency. i wanna weigh the least possible and have not so much bulk, but still be able to hold myself up easily. don't get me wrong, but don't most people lift weights for mass so they can look better? in bboying, you gotta have speed in your muscles too. ideally, bboys should look like Bruce Lee, not Triple H.
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12-08-2006, 12:00 AM

yeah that's why i stopped doing weights actually

but i still think that weights helps, it just isn't the perfect solution. The fact is, doing bench press makes you good at bench press and doing planches makes you good at planches. Why bother figuring out which weight lifting exercises benefit planches when you can just do planches? Maybe you can do like 1 sec but keep at it and you get better. That's why i like the dragondoor article it helps to stay motivated by easing you into it. If you're super motivated then yeah just jump straight into planches, and that seems to be what VP is recommending

and yeah don't develop muscle mass you won't be able to use, it just gets annoying.

I think someone said something about speed in muscles, that can also be trained with weights if you lift them explosively, but bodyweight stuff is still better IMO.

sorry about sounding argumentative, i just get a little annoyed when ppl say things like "oh no weights do NOTHING to help..." etc. which is plain incorrect.
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12-08-2006, 01:10 AM

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hey speakn of junior, wuts dat song he got in the video he did? ohh an by da way ima post up a video on how to do the floating push up thingy wid no hands.
The song is Eric B and Rakim- I Know You Got Soul.

And... Do u all think Junior's leg problem thing affects his planche pushups and thats the reason he can do em on his fingers? Or is he just built with extreme upper body strength?




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12-08-2006, 11:38 PM

Yo, I wonder where you heard that condensed air shit. Cause thats fucken whack but cool. Bboy Junior is just plain dbow...


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12-09-2006, 04:27 AM

wow...
Bench press works triceps and pecs. You need triceps and pecs to do pushups, even no-handed although its more focused on shoulders. And who the hell said I was for lifting huge amounts of weight? I'm for lifting weights and building muscle.

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12-09-2006, 12:47 PM

your logic is flawed, purdue boy.

it's the same muscles, but the muscles have different functions. with different functions, they'll contract differently. with bench press, it'll make your pecs and triceps real good at pushing shit and lifting heavy weights. it won't quite help so much with holding yourself up.

here's an example. keeping your arms straight, hold your bench press bar with enough weight to match your bodyweight. it's really not that hard.
then hold yourself in a planche. whaaaa it's harder!
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12-09-2006, 03:06 PM

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