Shabadoo mixing popping and locking on Soul Train

kandyflip · **Shabadoo mixing popping and locking on Soul Train -** 03-30-2007, 07:23 PM

I've just seen Shabadoo's performance on one of the repeats on Soul Train where he mixes popping and locking in a continuous flow of movement. What do you make of it? Can we really say that by 'pop-locking' he is 'dancing wrongly'?

Nice85 · 03-31-2007, 12:44 PM

thats funny i watching the best of soul train right now

i guess u really can say he was pop-lockin lol

funkAYE · 04-02-2007, 02:10 AM

hahaha hey if Shabadoo performed both the styles of popping and locking correctly, then I wouldn't be ashamed to say that he was 'pop-lockin'

It's when those elements (mostly locking imo) are not visible that troubles me.

While were on the term pop-lockin, check out this discussion by Greg Campbellock Jr. Pope

Campbellock Jr. & Associates | LockerLegends products

VicValSwift · 04-02-2007, 07:15 PM

I never really know what to think of that.. if you can at least distinguish between the two when someone is "pop-lockin" then I guess it's cool...

Aye funkAYE, you from Daly City? As in Daly City, California? Shit that's cool, I used to live there... moved here to tracy beginning of February...and it ain't cool. Where in Daly City you live?

funkAYE · 04-03-2007, 01:51 AM

Originally Posted by VicValSwift

I never really know what to think of that.. if you can at least distinguish between the two when someone is "pop-lockin" then I guess it's cool...

Aye funkAYE, you from Daly City? As in Daly City, California? Shit that's cool, I used to live there... moved here to tracy beginning of February...and it ain't cool. Where in Daly City you live?

By serrmanilla (serramonte, i'd figure you knew that) hahaha damn bro! GO back to Daly City!! SESSION. lol

lvsundance · 02-20-2012, 06:48 PM

The answer is NO. You should never say anyone is pop locking just because they do 2 completely different dances to one song, popping and locking. If you follow that logic of Yes, it would imply that dancers should only do one style per song when dancing. Otherwise at the end of the song, if someone was freestyle dancing with robotpopwavinglocking you would continue to create more pop lock type slang terms but people do not do this. It is another way to try and make a slang word that many people use with several completely different definitions useful but always confusing.

If someone does a ballet move while freestyle dancing with popping or any other style it is correct to say in the song the dancer did a ballet move with other styles. It would be wrong to make the freestyle dance into one style.

Epileptic · 11:25 PM

Necro.

What are you are talking about? It's called Dubstep Dance.

/Sarcasm...

Welcome to the forum.

lvsundance · 02-20-2012, 08:24 PM

I am talking about the point, the theme, the topic, the term that is mentioned in this thread. Your the only one talking about a different term.

"hahaha hey if Shabadoo performed both the styles of popping and locking correctly, then I wouldn't be ashamed to say that he was 'pop-lockin'"

"i guess u really can say he was pop-lockin lol"

"I never really know what to think of that.. if you can at least distinguish between the two when someone is "pop-lockin" then I guess it's cool..."

I was responding to these quotes and I did not see dubstep mentioned.

lvsundance · 02-22-2012, 08:57 PM

Thanks for the welcome.

Epileptic · 02-22-2012, 09:50 PM

I believe that in some regions, it has nearly always been called pop-locking.

P&L did start around the same time. The OG's were practioners and pioneers of both styles and many times they danced both styles in the same set.

I call it popping but if some someone asked if I was "poplocking," I wouldn't care.

Hell, you're lucky if they can guess poplocking. Most people come up to me and say "cool breakdancing" or "yeah, dubstep dance!"

I feel bad for the Turfers though. They probably have it the worse.

lvsundance · 02-22-2012, 11:16 PM

In the beginning when Locking was created, it was NEVER called Poplocking. Poplocking is a term that came around in the late 1970's. Locking was introduced on Soul Train in 1971 by the creator Don Campbell. Although many may say the Bay Area dances that are now considered popping was around the same time as Locking, the term Poplock was not used until many years later.

The fact is the term came from confusion and then people came up with the definition for it after it was created from slang. Oh, it is a dancer that can lock and Pop, it is a dance that combines Locking and Popping into one dance, it is a dance that combines robot and Locking into one dance, it is another name for Popping only, it is a dance that uses the rhythms of Locking into Popping, it is a someone popping with locking moves, it is an umbrella term like break dance that puts many styles under the term, etc

Every definition given above was from a self described authority of the truth about the term, Poplock.

I know the word exists, I know it is a term of endearment to many dancers. This should not excuse people from seeking the truth about the term. Is the truth less important if it exposes a mistake. The term does not have one definition, it has many and most of the definitions contradict each other.

It is better to live with the truth than create a definition to protect a mistake.

Epileptic · 02-22-2012, 11:45 PM

Every popper worth his/her salt knows the truth. I'm not to worried.

KidRobot · 02-23-2012, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by lvsundance

The answer is NO. You should never say anyone is pop locking just because they do 2 completely different dances to one song, popping and locking. If you follow that logic of Yes, it would imply that dancers should only do one style per song when dancing. Otherwise at the end of the song, if someone was freestyle dancing with robotpopwavinglocking you would continue to create more pop lock type slang terms but people do not do this. It is another way to try and make a slang word that many people use with several completely different definitions useful but always confusing.

If someone does a ballet move while freestyle dancing with popping or any other style it is correct to say in the song the dancer did a ballet move with other styles. It would be wrong to make the freestyle dance into one style.

People do call popping "poplockin" like you kind of mention lol. It's not a wrong to call popping either thing. I don't believe the term "pop-lockin" is either right or wrong in this situation. You act like you're the God of all dancing rules. Lmao. Anyone can get on wikipedia and look up history... I prefer talking to people. Even if you are an OG or someone who has somewhat experienced the movement. You seem pretty elitist about this whole thing in your first posts.

Get on a real forum or popping page and say that bullshit, the OG's will tear you a new ass hole. It's all over West Coast from a few years back and it's all over The Real Truth page. Just people arguing about what is called what and who is right and who is wrong.

No one is right or wrong, you, me, Slick Dogg, WaveO, none of us can say what a style is called or not. You can call it whatever the hell you like.. lol.

There are people that use ballet moves with popping though.. As well as modern with popping. It's in an "experimental" category. So all knowing God, is this wrong? Please give us your knowledge!

lvsundance · 02-23-2012, 12:57 PM

I was responding to the initial comments. Shabba Doo doing Popping and Locking to one song is another example of people adding a definition to the term instead of saying the truth.

So, do you believe Poplocking is what this thread says it is or do you disagree.

I disagree for the reasons I mentioned. It is not bullshit to discuss facts and experiences with a subject, but people can not remove the fact that in street dance mistakes were made. The ones worth their salt can admit it.

lvsundance · 02-23-2012, 02:01 PM

"There are people that use ballet moves with popping though.. As well as modern with popping. It's in an "experimental" category. So all knowing God, is this wrong? Please give us your knowledge!"

To answer your question: I 100% agree with you. You seem to agree with my point. It is in experimental category. Following the logic with the pop lock point in this thread is it now called balletpopping? When we do 2 or more different styles to one song is it all named one style by added all named styles into one. I say No. What do you say? That was my point.


kandyflip Member Respect: 1.5 Posts: 94 Join Date: Mar 2007	Shabadoo mixing popping and locking on Soul Train - 03-30-2007, 07:23 PM I've just seen Shabadoo's performance on one of the repeats on Soul Train where he mixes popping and locking in a continuous flow of movement. What do you make of it? Can we really say that by 'pop-locking' he is 'dancing wrongly'?


Nice85 Member Respect: 1 Posts: 315 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: St. Louis	03-31-2007, 12:44 PM thats funny i watching the best of soul train right now i guess u really can say he was pop-lockin lol
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funkAYE SaanBaYungTinapay!? Respect: 1 Posts: 82 Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Daly City	04-02-2007, 02:10 AM hahaha hey if Shabadoo performed both the styles of popping and locking correctly, then I wouldn't be ashamed to say that he was 'pop-lockin' It's when those elements (mostly locking imo) are not visible that troubles me. While were on the term pop-lockin, check out this discussion by Greg Campbellock Jr. Pope Campbellock Jr. & Associates \| LockerLegends products
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VicValSwift Rapper b-boy. Respect: 7.5 Posts: 2,816 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Frisco, Cali	04-02-2007, 07:15 PM I never really know what to think of that.. if you can at least distinguish between the two when someone is "pop-lockin" then I guess it's cool... Aye funkAYE, you from Daly City? As in Daly City, California? Shit that's cool, I used to live there... moved here to tracy beginning of February...and it ain't cool. Where in Daly City you live?


lvsundance Member Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Feb 2012	02-20-2012, 06:48 PM The answer is NO. You should never say anyone is pop locking just because they do 2 completely different dances to one song, popping and locking. If you follow that logic of Yes, it would imply that dancers should only do one style per song when dancing. Otherwise at the end of the song, if someone was freestyle dancing with robotpopwavinglocking you would continue to create more pop lock type slang terms but people do not do this. It is another way to try and make a slang word that many people use with several completely different definitions useful but always confusing. If someone does a ballet move while freestyle dancing with popping or any other style it is correct to say in the song the dancer did a ballet move with other styles. It would be wrong to make the freestyle dance into one style.


Epileptic ~The Vibrator~ Respect: 3.5 Posts: 654 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philly cheese steaks	02-20-2012, 07:27 PM Necro. What are you are talking about? It's called Dubstep Dance. /Sarcasm... Welcome to the forum. Last edited by Epileptic : 02-20-2012 at 11:25 PM.
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lvsundance Member Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Feb 2012	02-20-2012, 08:24 PM I am talking about the point, the theme, the topic, the term that is mentioned in this thread. Your the only one talking about a different term. "hahaha hey if Shabadoo performed both the styles of popping and locking correctly, then I wouldn't be ashamed to say that he was 'pop-lockin'" "i guess u really can say he was pop-lockin lol" "I never really know what to think of that.. if you can at least distinguish between the two when someone is "pop-lockin" then I guess it's cool..." I was responding to these quotes and I did not see dubstep mentioned.


lvsundance Member Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Feb 2012	02-22-2012, 08:57 PM Thanks for the welcome.


Epileptic ~The Vibrator~ Respect: 3.5 Posts: 654 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philly cheese steaks	02-22-2012, 09:50 PM I believe that in some regions, it has nearly always been called pop-locking. P&L did start around the same time. The OG's were practioners and pioneers of both styles and many times they danced both styles in the same set. I call it popping but if some someone asked if I was "poplocking," I wouldn't care. Hell, you're lucky if they can guess poplocking. Most people come up to me and say "cool breakdancing" or "yeah, dubstep dance!" I feel bad for the Turfers though. They probably have it the worse.
	"r u fucking crazy dont listen to chippa he aint no fucking legend."


lvsundance Member Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Feb 2012	02-22-2012, 11:16 PM In the beginning when Locking was created, it was NEVER called Poplocking. Poplocking is a term that came around in the late 1970's. Locking was introduced on Soul Train in 1971 by the creator Don Campbell. Although many may say the Bay Area dances that are now considered popping was around the same time as Locking, the term Poplock was not used until many years later. The fact is the term came from confusion and then people came up with the definition for it after it was created from slang. Oh, it is a dancer that can lock and Pop, it is a dance that combines Locking and Popping into one dance, it is a dance that combines robot and Locking into one dance, it is another name for Popping only, it is a dance that uses the rhythms of Locking into Popping, it is a someone popping with locking moves, it is an umbrella term like break dance that puts many styles under the term, etc Every definition given above was from a self described authority of the truth about the term, Poplock. I know the word exists, I know it is a term of endearment to many dancers. This should not excuse people from seeking the truth about the term. Is the truth less important if it exposes a mistake. The term does not have one definition, it has many and most of the definitions contradict each other. It is better to live with the truth than create a definition to protect a mistake.

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Epileptic ~The Vibrator~ Respect: 3.5 Posts: 654 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Philly cheese steaks	02-22-2012, 11:45 PM Every popper worth his/her salt knows the truth. I'm not to worried.
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lvsundance Member Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Feb 2012	02-23-2012, 12:57 PM I was responding to the initial comments. Shabba Doo doing Popping and Locking to one song is another example of people adding a definition to the term instead of saying the truth. So, do you believe Poplocking is what this thread says it is or do you disagree. I disagree for the reasons I mentioned. It is not bullshit to discuss facts and experiences with a subject, but people can not remove the fact that in street dance mistakes were made. The ones worth their salt can admit it.


lvsundance Member Respect: 1 Posts: 9 Join Date: Feb 2012	02-23-2012, 02:01 PM "There are people that use ballet moves with popping though.. As well as modern with popping. It's in an "experimental" category. So all knowing God, is this wrong? Please give us your knowledge!" To answer your question: I 100% agree with you. You seem to agree with my point. It is in experimental category. Following the logic with the pop lock point in this thread is it now called balletpopping? When we do 2 or more different styles to one song is it all named one style by added all named styles into one. I say No. What do you say? That was my point.