a few possible fixes for yur kip-up

r3ven4nt · **a few possible fixes for yur kip-up -** 07-20-2006, 02:49 AM

jst browsing thru teh threads here, i'm hopin my method of doin kip-ups will help some ppl with theirs. I'm pretty much a bboy n00b, but my kip-ups are solid, w/o a question.
=-THINGS TO NOTE-=
a) momentum- more momentum means more potential energy to exert in teh move
b) safety- lets be honest..its breakdancing, and my method isn't teh most orthodox
c) practice- once again..^

=-MY WAY-=
1) You can start this however is more comfortable for you, either from a crouching position, or from on yur back, w/e works, jst start there.

2) Roll backwards, of course with a slightly curved back so you roll and don't flop. (If you started from your back, it may be a lil more difficult to build that momentum, in which case yur pretty much going to wanna throw your lower body back liek u want to kick yur legs over yur head. This pretty much eliminates teh next step, and makes step 4 much easier)

3) Now this is where it gets a lil screwy. Roll backwards, onto your neck/back of yur head and shoulder blades/shoulders.

4) Your legs should have naturally rolled back with you, and at this point thrust them (while pushing slightly off of yur neck/head/shoulder points) almost straight up direction wise, but your legs themselves should be slightly bent.

5) as you begin to go up, sorta.."buck your hips" (for lack of a better term) to avoid coming right back down how you started. By doing this, you should rotate enough so that you can land safely on your feet.

=-THINGS TO NOTICE-=
a) At no point do i actually use my hands liek you would normally learn with teh more conventional way.
REASON: It seems that many ppl hav problems getting their upper body off teh ground in which case they either fall on their ass or end up sorta.."bridging" the move. The same happened with me, and i noticed it was because with using my hands/arms, my upper body was bent in a way that didn't let me get the maximum amount of push i needed. By using this method, its also less painful if you mess-up, because your arms aren't being forced into teh ground at odd angles, rather you jst flop on yur back.

b) There aren't any pics/vids to accompany this.
REASON: Its 2am here, and i'm not bouncing around wakin my house up. I'll have a vid up ASAP though

Hope this helped some

.:`~Kai~`:.

mr.47 · 07-20-2006, 06:48 AM

hey man thanks for the help, but what do u mean by bucking the hips?

r3ven4nt · 07-20-2006, 08:26 PM

yea, that part is a lil hard to explain...when i get teh vid up it'll help, but teh best i can do in words:
if yur following teh steps above to most points, when you push up with yur legs, u'll notice how since u rolled back yur butt is pushed more out than yur legs of course, and this still hold true somewhat while kicking up. By almost jerking yur hips inward, (which in this case is back towards yur head) it'll help propell yur legs/feet forward and around so you can land, and assist yur body in bringing yur upper-body back up as well.
If that's still confusing (which i don't doubt) then sadly u'll hafta either have some1 else help ya and/or wait for teh vid. (Which i'm working on getting put up, its jst a matter of fixing my camera and all that junk)
.:`~Kai~`:.

mr.47 · 07-29-2006, 02:37 PM

I finally did it, thx man 4 ur time and assistance

Shoxygen · 07-31-2006, 11:35 PM

so how easy can a kip-up be if all your weight is in the middle(aka my fat stomach)

r3ven4nt · 08-05-2006, 08:26 PM

its rly not a matter of how large u are all in all, i've seen some pretty big ppl breaking, and they're amazing. its a matter of being able to influence {cuz i wouldn't say yur controlling it} yur momentum to help you up. Its a matter of taking whatevr weight that's going backwards when u roll back, and being able to exert that same amount of force in the up and out direction.
now that yur confused from that, "easy" "hard" etc aren't rly words i'd use, since its a matter of yur determination. liek i said, this is a guide as to what works for me, try a few suggested methods, and then jst sorta mess around to see what works for ya. and at that point write a lil article liek this to let ppl kno wat u did!
.:`~Kai~`:.

Bboy Bào · 08-13-2006, 06:20 PM

yo kai i understand what you mean by "bucking the hips", and that's the most helpful kipup advice anyone has given me! it helped me get the no-handed kipups! thanks man!
and by the way, good job going into modeling. we gotta show the world that we asian men are sexy!

Mr. Flapps · 09-03-2006, 01:05 AM

do you guys want a vid?

bboy dreamz · 09-14-2006, 02:24 AM

yeyeah so to kip up is just like a jackie chan move when he gets knocked down, yeah show us ur vid of it

NYKHouston43 · 09-18-2006, 02:58 PM

Yeah I want to see a vid of you doing armless kip ups. I seem to suck pretty bad at mine.

Mr. Flapps · 09-26-2006, 08:22 PM

srry been busy. read my other post

AVcachorro · 10-01-2006, 04:54 PM

So wat happened to the vid lol I mean I dont really need it bcause my kip_ups are also in good conditions but I would like to check ur way to see if I can make it betta but well yea still where's the vid ?????????

Bboy Kam!kaz3 · 10-05-2006, 09:41 AM

I'ts cool, but i don't get the "buck youre hips" part.. (i almost can do them but maybe if i understand that it helps me)

bboy.ehm · 11-02-2006, 05:51 PM

Go To My Guide It Shows Common Errors In Kip Upz

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r3ven4nt .:`~teh f4\|\|3n~`:. Respect: 1 Posts: 43 Join Date: Jul 2006	a few possible fixes for yur kip-up - 07-20-2006, 02:49 AM jst browsing thru teh threads here, i'm hopin my method of doin kip-ups will help some ppl with theirs. I'm pretty much a bboy n00b, but my kip-ups are solid, w/o a question. =-THINGS TO NOTE-= a) momentum- more momentum means more potential energy to exert in teh move b) safety- lets be honest..its breakdancing, and my method isn't teh most orthodox c) practice- once again..^ =-MY WAY-= 1) You can start this however is more comfortable for you, either from a crouching position, or from on yur back, w/e works, jst start there. 2) Roll backwards, of course with a slightly curved back so you roll and don't flop. (If you started from your back, it may be a lil more difficult to build that momentum, in which case yur pretty much going to wanna throw your lower body back liek u want to kick yur legs over yur head. This pretty much eliminates teh next step, and makes step 4 much easier) 3) Now this is where it gets a lil screwy. Roll backwards, onto your neck/back of yur head and shoulder blades/shoulders. 4) Your legs should have naturally rolled back with you, and at this point thrust them (while pushing slightly off of yur neck/head/shoulder points) almost straight up direction wise, but your legs themselves should be slightly bent. 5) as you begin to go up, sorta.."buck your hips" (for lack of a better term) to avoid coming right back down how you started. By doing this, you should rotate enough so that you can land safely on your feet. =-THINGS TO NOTICE-= a) At no point do i actually use my hands liek you would normally learn with teh more conventional way. REASON: It seems that many ppl hav problems getting their upper body off teh ground in which case they either fall on their ass or end up sorta.."bridging" the move. The same happened with me, and i noticed it was because with using my hands/arms, my upper body was bent in a way that didn't let me get the maximum amount of push i needed. By using this method, its also less painful if you mess-up, because your arms aren't being forced into teh ground at odd angles, rather you jst flop on yur back. b) There aren't any pics/vids to accompany this. REASON: Its 2am here, and i'm not bouncing around wakin my house up. I'll have a vid up ASAP though Hope this helped some .:`~Kai~`:.


mr.47 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 22 Join Date: Jul 2006	07-20-2006, 06:48 AM hey man thanks for the help, but what do u mean by bucking the hips?


r3ven4nt .:`~teh f4\|\|3n~`:. Respect: 1 Posts: 43 Join Date: Jul 2006	07-20-2006, 08:26 PM yea, that part is a lil hard to explain...when i get teh vid up it'll help, but teh best i can do in words: if yur following teh steps above to most points, when you push up with yur legs, u'll notice how since u rolled back yur butt is pushed more out than yur legs of course, and this still hold true somewhat while kicking up. By almost jerking yur hips inward, (which in this case is back towards yur head) it'll help propell yur legs/feet forward and around so you can land, and assist yur body in bringing yur upper-body back up as well. If that's still confusing (which i don't doubt) then sadly u'll hafta either have some1 else help ya and/or wait for teh vid. (Which i'm working on getting put up, its jst a matter of fixing my camera and all that junk) .:`~Kai~`:.


mr.47 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 22 Join Date: Jul 2006	07-29-2006, 02:37 PM I finally did it, thx man 4 ur time and assistance


Shoxygen Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 17 Join Date: Jul 2006	07-31-2006, 11:35 PM so how easy can a kip-up be if all your weight is in the middle(aka my fat stomach)
	Hey stop being such N00B because according to my calculations I OWN you!¿ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ibMrP9FO0w


r3ven4nt .:`~teh f4\|\|3n~`:. Respect: 1 Posts: 43 Join Date: Jul 2006	08-05-2006, 08:26 PM its rly not a matter of how large u are all in all, i've seen some pretty big ppl breaking, and they're amazing. its a matter of being able to influence {cuz i wouldn't say yur controlling it} yur momentum to help you up. Its a matter of taking whatevr weight that's going backwards when u roll back, and being able to exert that same amount of force in the up and out direction. now that yur confused from that, "easy" "hard" etc aren't rly words i'd use, since its a matter of yur determination. liek i said, this is a guide as to what works for me, try a few suggested methods, and then jst sorta mess around to see what works for ya. and at that point write a lil article liek this to let ppl kno wat u did! .:`~Kai~`:.
	~.:Eat Death & Drink Sorrow:.~ ~.:As is the way of the revenant:.~ flame me if u want, idc, but i recently started pursuing my modeling career, if any and all can do me a favor, follow teh link and cast yur vote i appreciate it.


Bboy Bào Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 60 Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Adams Morgan, DC	08-13-2006, 06:20 PM yo kai i understand what you mean by "bucking the hips", and that's the most helpful kipup advice anyone has given me! it helped me get the no-handed kipups! thanks man! and by the way, good job going into modeling. we gotta show the world that we asian men are sexy!


Mr. Flapps IM BLACKANESE Respect: 6 Posts: 2,450 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: san jose	09-03-2006, 01:05 AM do you guys want a vid?


bboy dreamz Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 26 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: brisbane	09-14-2006, 02:24 AM yeyeah so to kip up is just like a jackie chan move when he gets knocked down, yeah show us ur vid of it


NYKHouston43 Member Respect: 1 Posts: 127 Join Date: Mar 2006	09-18-2006, 02:58 PM Yeah I want to see a vid of you doing armless kip ups. I seem to suck pretty bad at mine.


Mr. Flapps IM BLACKANESE Respect: 6 Posts: 2,450 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: san jose	09-26-2006, 08:22 PM srry been busy. read my other post


AVcachorro Brasilian Bboy Respect: 1 Posts: 22 Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Orlando, Fl	10-01-2006, 04:54 PM So wat happened to the vid lol I mean I dont really need it bcause my kip_ups are also in good conditions but I would like to check ur way to see if I can make it betta but well yea still where's the vid ?????????


Bboy Kam!kaz3 Yes Yes Y'all! Respect: 2 Posts: 381 Join Date: Sep 2005	10-05-2006, 09:41 AM I'ts cool, but i don't get the "buck youre hips" part.. (i almost can do them but maybe if i understand that it helps me)
	Bleh.


bboy.ehm muckatthew Respect: 2 Posts: 611 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Toronto,Ontario	11-02-2006, 05:51 PM Go To My Guide It Shows Common Errors In Kip Upz