[nickdaman767]

thanx for the history...i never knew dat

[BgRL_MyStIqUe]

dat was a good piece bout brekin' but wheres HERC!!??

[Sank_KST]

Originally Posted by BboyMenace I usually like to hear facts about the history of breakin too, but only if they are truly facts. I stopped reading the article after it was stated that James Brown basically invented breakdancing. This could be considered a highly controversial, much-debated topic. I rather choose to believe that breakin came from Capoeira, the Brazilian martial art, of course. There are many similarities between these two arts. Capoeira even has a form of one-on-one combat where the two dancing combatants both go down to the floor on the same musical beat (because music is ALWAYS played when playing capoeira), but they hit each of their sticks together instead of throwing a punch or something like bboyz. This is VERY similar to battle rock. Many of the moves are the same too. They have moves called by Brazilian names, that I can barely spell because I only took Capoeira for a year. The moves are IDENTICAL to the: 1990, L-Kick, Hollowback, Planche, One-hand glides, Headspins, Flare, Ball-and-Chain, Butterfly Twists, and many more! They do flips and handstands and splits too. The similarities are very abundant. Oh, and don't forget that a circle is made for Capoeira, as well as breakdancing. James Brown might have observed this art and incorporated it into his great dancing, or maybe he re-invented SOME of the similar movements himself, but I doubt he should be credited with inventing it as the article strongly suggests. This shouldn't be spread around if it isn't true. Don't hate me if I've bursted your bubbles, I'm just stating my opinion, with facts. Please respond if there is more debate to be had. Thanks for listenining. Dennis The Menace

yeah but do you really reckon the kids of New York and Philly knew anything about capoiera?

[Ivylaiz]

You said: [I stopped reading the article after it was stated that James Brown basically invented breakdancing. This could be considered a highly controversial, much-debated topic. I rather choose to believe that breakin came from Capoeira, the Brazilian martial art, of course.]

I think you are contradicting yourself. You say that the fact James Brown invented Bboying is a highly controversial and debateable topic yet you take a strong stance suggesting that it is just capoeira that breakin was developed through. I think you need to take another look at the facts of bboying history and realise that the first stages of bboying did not consist of such acrobatic power moves as are similar in capoeira. Bboying was merely footwork. Bboying developed as new moves were introduced including influences from many different dance forms: capoeira, jazz, salsa, and many more. I think you are very wrong to "suggest" that breaking comes from Capoeira. Breaking was developed through many styles of movement, and it is still developing. You may still be right that a statement like "James Brown was the sole inventor of the breaking dance form," is highly controversial, and I think it is, but nevertheless James Brown was a significant person in bboying history, and there are many other factors included in his influence, as is for the rest of history.

Message: Think again

[weyden]

haha shot emz.

[B-boy Jp]

BBoying did not just come from good foot. What about lindy hopping and all the rest i cant think of. But i do have to say that Menace forgot a key factor. BBOying started with only what we call now style moves. Bboying was not made up of power it was made up of style moves. Later they started to include gymnastics, Capoeria, martial arts, god knows where else but yeah that history conclusion was not to accurate only including goot foot sorry.

[giovannile07]

That was some good information and glad to know that maybe James Brown wasn't fully the creator of bboying. Who knows. Well, I'm glad I read that learned a bit more.

[bboypenguin]

Wasn't Afrika Bambaataa born in 1957?
that means when he was 12 he was already a figure head givin advice?
ya some facts are debatable, probably cuz of the fact i base my bboy history on
"the freshest kids," and "Planet b-boy."
but the paper is still an inspiring piece.

props

[4real]

Originally Posted by Bboy_Hypnotizer i juz read it and its always good to gain knowledge of history to share with my crew

well heres more knowledge for you....the truth is it started in nyc...influences may come from all the above except the foot.....thats ridiculous...look at rock steady crew..coming from some one who grew up seeing wit my own eyes the street crews in the 70's

[4real]

Originally Posted by giovannile07 That was some good information and glad to know that maybe James Brown wasn't fully the creator of bboying. Who knows. Well, I'm glad I read that learned a bit more.

was not james Brown...believe....look at rock steady in the late 70's noone wants to give credit where its truly due...mayb cuz at the time latins (hispanics) particularly puerto Ricans in this case were not a community ppl who were going to b giving any credit too...but believe its true ..i saw it with my own eyes...we used to battle in the streets in brooklyn late 70s lower east side manhattan and the south bronx early 80's

[4real]

Look bboy is an element of Hip Hop and it started in NYC late 70's...yes the dance is influenced by many dances and cultures but breakdancing evolved from bboying or you could say its the same thing.....James Brown had nothing to do with it ..thats for sure....look up the legendary rock steady crew......i didnt read bout this shii...i lived it..saw the battle in the sts. and if it werent for latins this would have never happened..and im sayin this cuz ppl want to blind the fact that we startrd the dance as an element of hip hop..ppl not rap get it right..

[4real]

Originally Posted by Ivylaiz You said: [I stopped reading the article after it was stated that James Brown basically invented breakdancing. This could be considered a highly controversial, much-debated topic. I rather choose to believe that breakin came from Capoeira, the Brazilian martial art, of course.] I think you are contradicting yourself. You say that the fact James Brown invented Bboying is a highly controversial and debateable topic yet you take a strong stance suggesting that it is just capoeira that breakin was developed through. I think you need to take another look at the facts of bboying history and realise that the first stages of bboying did not consist of such acrobatic power moves as are similar in capoeira. Bboying was merely footwork. Bboying developed as new moves were introduced including influences from many different dance forms: capoeira, jazz, salsa, and many more. I think you are very wrong to "suggest" that breaking comes from Capoeira. Breaking was developed through many styles of movement, and it is still developing. You may still be right that a statement like "James Brown was the sole inventor of the breaking dance form," is highly controversial, and I think it is, but nevertheless James Brown was a significant person in bboying history, and there are many other factors included in his influence, as is for the rest of history. Message: Think again

James Brown my a...influences are international and yes its still chnging but we are talkin bout who brought this to the streets ppl....it was urban gangsters in nyc late 70's.....go.. i cant believe how distorted ppl get this..Legendary Rock Steady crew were like the first and mem crazy legs cmon ppl...lets b for real...man i ya didnt grow up in nyc...mayb you shouldnt talk..cuz theres alot of guessing goin on up in here

[D4nc3-Kr3wz]

wheres the citited source for this?? (im doing homework on bboy history and bboy foundations)

i need to do a 6 page research paperon this MLA format

[kyang]

"This Article is from"Breakdancing with Mr.Fresh & The Supreme Rockers""

it says rite below the article itself
good to see ppl learnin and educatin history about bboyin haha
u kno what they say
if u dunno where its been, how u gona know where its goin?
good luck brotha