[GrandMoren]

Ok first things first, if anyone can tell me the real name for this move, then i can change the topic name. But for now, its a spinning flag.

Ok, first things first, ill also include how to flag in this guide, because you obviously need to know how to do it before you can make them spin.

http://www.breakdance.co.il/multimedia/Ango.mpeg

This is a flag.

Before hand things to learn AND perfect.
Hand stands:
You will need awesome balance on handstands for this, because if you dont, you might be doing
the move and just not be able to hold it because of lack of TWO hand balance.
Meaning you cant hanstand.

You might also want to have one-handers down pretty well. (2-5 seconds hold. Trust me its a long time for one handers.) One handers will really help you know where your center of balance is, and makes it easier to spin. Not only on this move, but on all 90 moves.

Flag
First, get into handstand position. Your hands should be planted further apart then a normal hand stand.
None of that open legged shit, and try NOT to arch your back. (It helps if you pull forward with your hands a bit to catch the balance. And i dont mean towards the floor, pull towards where your back is pointing)
Now depending on what hand your using, you need to lean to the opposite side.
Ill write this guide as the lefty that i am, if you have problems, then copy the guide to a file and change all the sides.
Ok, so i pull my arms to my right, and lean my legs to my left.
Now, bring your legs down slowly, and pull more to the right. This will center out the balance.
When your legs are as vertical as you can get them, let go of the hand that has no weight on it.
If you leaned far enough, there should be no problem, because all of the weight is off it already, and you just lift it up and nothing happens. If you DIDNT lean far enough, then your body will struggle.
Now heres the tricky part, you need to twist your shoulders and upper body to the right.
LITERALLY twist it. Very important. Make the whole process easier, and less frusterating to know this. I wish someone had told ME this when i was learning these.
Now while your twisting, hold your arm out straight from its socket. That means straight out, this will help for balance. Dont put it at your side, or over your head, this will throw you off when your starting.

This is what it should look like.

http://www.bboy.org/gallery/showphot...ort=1&cat=4060 (friend of mine)

Tips:
1: Practice. This move does NOT come naturally. Its a hard move, and needs practice.
2: Remember to twist your body, look at the picture. His chest is twisted.
3: To get your legs lower, combine more twisting, and more leaning to the opposite side.

Spin it!
Alright, you all ready to spin that fucker?

http://www.breakdance.co.il/multimedia/6075367.gif

Before hand things to learn AND perfect.
90's or any other handstand spinny move
You need to know how to do a 90 because you need to know how the hand spins, where it spins, how to keep your balance (not really THAT relevant because its a different balance then 90's, but not that much)

First steps, i need to explain how to get into it one handedly without going into the whole "Getting into a flag" process.

Getting into it
Ok, you want to start this off like a 90. If you dont know how to start off a 90, go to the guides in this section and read up on it.

Bring back your leg, plant that hand (Remember to plan it inverted, Finger inwards for that extra spin) now you dont want to plant your second hand at all. Your going to spin on that hand.

Now if this feel akward for you, or you do it the other way, then get used to it, because you need to learn this way first before you can start to do it flashy ways.

Now look at the video, his legs are open, you CAN do that, but it looks sloppy, if you want a better refence go look for a junior video, hes got them down mad.

Now as you put your hand down, you want to push off with BOTH feet, have them a bit apart, and when you get into the air SNAP them together, this gives you extra speed, and helps with the balance. Remember to twist your chest, if you dont it will come out some strange wanna-be 90 with bent legs.
Now its very important to keep your legs straight at the beggining, because if you dont you will fall most chances. But after the first couple seconds, you should start to bend them at the knee. This helps keep you going, because it build momentum, and doesnt stop by hitting the air and stopping the aerodynamics.

Ah, i forgot to mention, when you put your hand down and push off with your legs, your going to want to pull that hand towards your belly. not in, but to the side, in line with your legs, or else you wont have the balance we worked so hard on with the flags.

Also, your going to want to arch your back, it helps with the spin, and actually helps you keep it up as well. Dont arch it too much, look at the video and see. You can arch a little bit more than that But thats about where it is.

Remember to spin on the bone on the bottom of your hand, or else you just wont go anywhere.

Tips:
1: Practice, as always, but dont practice for 2 minutes and say fuck it, keep going, this is a hard move.
2: Try different methods of getting down, this way is just the most comfortable, but maybe not the easiyest, its just the way i perfer to do it.
3: remember to twist that chest! This is VERY important!
4: Dont forget to pull your arm down, or else youll fall after 25% of the spin.

Variations, and endings:
Ok, here are some variations and endings.

One leggers:
One leggers are just the same as the regulars ones but with one leg being held by the other arm, you should hold it close to your chest for good balance, but play with it for more results.

V-flags:
These are the open legged ones, some people that i have taught this to say its easier, and some say its harder, for me its easier sometimes, and harder othertimes.
To do this just start with closed legs and open them as you get up.
(Note: You can also start these by starting with open legs, but only do that after you can do it with opening them in the middle, or else it will be hard as hell)

Ball-Flags:
These are my favorite, but usually i use only as an ending to my flags.
These are what i would call the munchmills of 90's if you ask me.
What you do is, which that hand thats not doing anything, catch your legs and bring them into your chest, so it feels like your a ball. This move spins VERY fast, so try it on grass first, even if you have perfect spinning flags.
I actually seen a guy that did these, and then shot his legs out, went all the way around, and cought himself into a hollow. My mouth was wide open.
I never could do that move because i crushed my shoulder and cant do hollows anymore
SO anyone who tries that and can do it, send in a video for my sake

Well, thats about it, im sure some other people on this forum do these, so you guys help me with whats missing, and answering the questions please.

Once i get an extension cord for my camera ill hopefully get some videos up for you guys, maybe make the whole thing a video guide. But for now this will have to do.

-GrandMoren


Edit: I forgot to add.

BREATHE! If you dont breathe, you wont be able to do this move for more than a second. so breathe.

[GrandMoren]

Wow, didnt notice how long that was.
Well, if your lazy you dont deserve to learn it anyway

[GeNeTiX ViRuS]

What a lovely guide for such a lovely move.

[GrandMoren]

Indeed, one of my favorite moves to pull
For all those wondering, i didnt have no guide on this, so you all are in luck.
But really? You can learn this move by just looking at videos, like any other move in bboying.
So before you start asking questions and things, review some videos.
Its actually quite hard to find vids on this move, but look up some junior and youll find alot of these.

[GrandMoren]

So anyone know the real name for this move?

[GrandMoren]

Well.
I just found out my body is.. Camera shy.
It doesnt seem to want to hold up the flag for the video. Either that or im too tired, considering its 1am.
Ill try some more tommorow, and post it up.

[Riff's]

nice guide, however i also don't know the name... I've been working on these just recently, but i still need to find my balance in the so called "flag position"...

[GrandMoren]

Most important thing about the flag position is really to lean to the opposite side as much as you can

[Vice President]

are you encouraging us all to bite junior and physics?

[GrandMoren]

Mmm nope. i only stated its a junior move because i dont know the real name.
Actually people have been doin flags here before junior was even known, and my friend (If you remember right, the gymnast teacher who could 1hand planche) can spin them as well.

[Riff's]

^ Word i have a old clip i got off MTV of a guy doing them... I'll post it up later if you don't mind.

[GrandMoren]

Id be glad if you did. My cam broke yesterday when i hit it.

I still need to know what its called -_-;

[B-B-B-B-B-Boy]

wow...its amazing dat even after months and months of bboying u still find out about more moves everyday... these luk pretty hard, so ill try em afta i get 90's (like u sed v shud)

[ManHy xD]

Ugh why the heck isnt this a sticky, imma spam it back to da front page, blah .

[breakaway808]

I have a couple of friends who can do "flags". I never asked them what the real name was. But Junior and Physics are not the ones who invented this move.