[Newcomb]

some encouragement.. The Lord was encouraging me at our prayer meeting.

1 May the LORD answer you when you are in distress;
may the name of the God of Jacob protect you.

2 May he send you help from the sanctuary
and grant you support from Zion.

3 May he remember all your sacrifices
and accept your burnt offerings.
Selah

4 May he give you the desire of your heart
and make all your plans succeed.

5 We will shout for joy when you are victorious
and will lift up our banners in the name of our God.
May the LORD grant all your requests.

6 Now I know that the LORD saves his anointed;
he answers him from his holy heaven
with the saving power of his right hand.

7 Some trust in chariots and some in horses,
but we trust in the name of the LORD our God.

8 They are brought to their knees and fall,
but we rise up and stand firm.

9 O LORD, save the king!
Answer us when we call!

[Break4Christ]

What are your guys views on dating while in High School and College. Also what about dating a non-Christian. Im curious to hear your opinions.

[Bboy-Triptych]

Originally Posted by AK47 Geez louise, going through this thread page-by-page is a hassle. Gotta do my job though. Anyways, I thought I'd just drop in with some notes I took from my philosophy class. Right now, we're briefly going over the philosophy of religion.

Good Ol Philosophy! I miss my Philosophy class

As I was reading this I kept coming up with assumptions that arguments were making and different problems with some of the arguments. But as I was starting to form my ideas I saw that you already had most of them written down right below them in the "Possible responses" section hah. I love stuff like that!

On page 3 for the 'Defective Design' argument, I heard this once.
Is there such thing as darkness?

No..
There is only the absence of light.

Is there such thing as evil?

No..
There is only the absence of God

[Bboy-Triptych]

Originally Posted by Break4Christ What are your guys views on dating while in High School and College. Also what about dating a non-Christian. Im curious to hear your opinions.

Through my experiences, dating in High School is pointless. Out of my entire senior class and out of all the people that were In A Relationship by the time we graduated, only ONE couple is still together and is now married. So it does happen, but it's very unlikely. I think that time in High School would be used much more effectively just trying to find out 'who you are'. High school is a huge learning, growing, and changing expereince and you don't want to miss that. You have your whole life to be in relationships hah.

As far as dating non-Christians, the Bible never says don't date non-Christians. 2 Corinthians 6:14 "Do not be yoked with unbelieves" is not talking about dating (people love to use that verse for everything lol, but you can't take stuff out of context). But personally, when I thought about this, my faith is the most important thing in my life. My relationship with God is the most important relationship I have. Wouldn't you want to share the most important thing in your life, or an important area of your life with the one you love? With someone who does not have the same faith as you, you can't do that. And for me, that was a really depressing thought, so I never dated someone who didn't believe in Christ. And it wasn't that I didn't want to at times. Sometimes there were girls that I really liked and that I felt we had a great connection, but I had to look ahead..

But as far as going on a first or second date or something, sometimes you really can't know what someone's beliefs are that early into dating. But sometimes you can..

[Newcomb]

Originally Posted by Break4Christ What are your guys views on dating while in High School and College. Also what about dating a non-Christian. Im curious to hear your opinions.

This is a touchy subject.. because I have heard many different stories and God was able to work through them all.

I believe if you are not ready to be committed for life, then you should just wait untill you are to date. It will save you a lot of possible heart ache. This really goes for anyone, not just Christians.

As far as dating a non-believer the Lord says not to be unequally yoked. This goes for anyone too. If one person in the partnership is going one way strong and the other is going another way strong then you guys shouldn't really be trying to go together. You should be in unity. So to date a non-christian is pointless, because eventually things are going to come up about view points and stand points. If you both don't agree then It's going o be a ruff road. This could be even for two Christians. I think it's important to equally yolked.

If you play football and your team mate is trying to play basketball then you just can't play two things together. the team should at least agree they are playing the same sport before they play.

[madflows]

Do christians smoke weed?

[JeffroDisiac]

Originally Posted by madflows Do christians smoke weed?

Of course they do.

[Newcomb]

i don't know any Christians who smoke weed. Paul, in the Bible, says be sober minded be diligent.

Personally I can't be diligent or sober minded on weed..

[Break4Christ]

Originally Posted by Newcomb i don't know any Christians who smoke weed. Paul, in the Bible, says be sober minded be diligent. Personally I can't be diligent or sober minded on weed..

X2. The church has never supported smoking of any kind.

[JeffroDisiac]

Originally Posted by ptung i think the polite way to put it is that i m just not as lucky as you are (Break4Christ). For me everything is about science, numbers, and empirical data. I always need some very convincing evidence for me to believe in one way or another. I think that one the stupidest things one can do on the internet is to "prove" that God exist. God is only meaningful if someone is willing to make that leap of faith. Even if someone is able to come up with a concrete, irrefutable proof that God exist, he(she) will, in essence, destroy the foundation of faith. To prove God exist to someone who refuse His existence is to disprove the fundamental of belief. I just cannot make that leap of faith based on nothing...maybe that's a good thing, maybe is bad thing...but nobody will know until the time comes....

If you want an interesting, arithmetic-esque view of a very intelligent Christian, who puts the Bible into the form of quite a few intriguing statistics; I suggest a book entitled Signature of God. I very much enjoyed this book, it shows that the only way the Bible could have been written is via Divine Intervention, among other things. I reccomend it highly to anyone interested it reading it, whether they be skeptics of Christianity, or one of my Christian brothers and sisters looking to expand his or her knowledge, of his or her faith.

May God bless you,
your brother,
Jeff.

[Edited for typographical reasons]

[Newcomb]

I might check that out thanks Jeff.

[JeffroDisiac]

Anytime, bro.
God is a very arithmetically gifted being, obviously, and there are many uses of arithmetical phenomena within the Scriptures, quite literally.

Here is an excerpt from Grant R. Jeffrey's (the author of the book) website, explaining what topics the book covers:

1. Fascinating ancient inscriptions and manuscripts that prove the incredible historical accuracy of the Scriptures. 2. Little known archeological discoveries that provide overwhelming confirmation of the biblical accounts, including the Tower of Babel, the famine in Egypt, 3. An astonishing discovery of ancient rock inscriptions in the Sinai and Yemen that record the events of the Red Sea Crossing and the Exodus mentioning Moses, Miriam and Joseph. 4. The tremendously accurate scientific statements in the Bible that cannot be explained apart from God's inspiration. 5. These Hebrew Codes reveal the names: Hitler, Eichmann, and Anwar Sadat. 6.Throughout the Old Testament God has placed the name of Jesus - Yeshua in code, bebneath theespecially in passages that prophecy the coming Messiah. 7. The staggering phenomenon of hidden codes and mathematical patterns found in the text of the Bible that could not have been produced by human intelligence. 8. The incredible fulfillment of twenty prophecies in our generation that authenticate God's authorship of the Scriptures. 9. Ezekiel prophesied the rebirth of Israel as a nation on May 15, 1948 10.Fascinating archeological discoveries that confirm the accuracy of the Bible's statements about the falling walls of Jericho, the seal used by Baruch, the scribe who wrote the Book of Jeremiah. 11. Scriptural "coincidences" that confirm the divine inspiration of the Scriptures. 12. The phenomenon of the transformed character and lives of the writers of the Bible. 13. The unprecedented influence of the Bible on the lives of individuals, the culture, and history of the Western world. 14. Incredibly advanced medical laws and knowledge found in the Bible confirm its supernatural origin.

[Miracle11]

Break4Christ, I love this forum bro..its about time christian bboys/bgirls culd get to kno each other and wat not..Im a christian myself..I do christian rap, which alot of people dont support but it doesnt matter to me..I just show my love for God in a different wayy then others..Do you think it is wrong to rap about God?
What are yall opinions on that?
..Check out my song on my music myspace to tell me what you think..

www.myspace.com/miracleofficial

God Bless =)

[Break4Christ]

Originally Posted by Miracle11 Break4Christ, I love this forum bro..its about time christian bboys/bgirls culd get to kno each other and wat not..Im a christian myself..I do christian rap, which alot of people dont support but it doesnt matter to me..I just show my love for God in a different wayy then others..Do you think it is wrong to rap about God? What are yall opinions on that? ..Check out my song on my music myspace to tell me what you think.. www.myspace.com/miracleofficial God Bless =)

What's good brother! Of course I don't think its bad to rap about God! I think its a great opportunity to reach our youth through hip hop with a more positive message than their used to hearing. I hope you continually faithfully in your ministry and that God blesses your music. Let us pray for his mercy.

[Break4Christ]

Originally Posted by JeffroDisiac Anytime, bro. God is a very arithmetically gifted being, obviously, and there are many uses of arithmetical phenomena within the Scriptures, quite literally. Here is an excerpt from Grant R. Jeffrey's (the author of the book) website, explaining what topics the book covers:

Hey Jeff, how are you doing bud. I would recommend that people be careful with books like this. Apologetics on both the Christian and Atheist side tend to be garbage. I recommend staying away from it. It is a constant battle between both sides and neither can ever be confirmed through scientific methods. As I said in an earlier post, science cannot bring faith in God. If you put your faith in these theories, it will be a long road of doubt and discomfort. I'm speaking from personal experience. I don't know much about the book so forgive me if I am speaking to soon. God bless.