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A Hard Question. - 11-27-2007, 05:30 AM

It is most likely a very hard question for everyone to answer.

I need to know two things.

1. Can anyone define Feel? (as in feel to the music)

2. and can anyone define Musicality (im sure this will be easier than number one)
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11-27-2007, 06:15 AM

I suppose musicality is like how someone interprets the music. But never mind, Chippa will tell you what is right and wrong.
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11-27-2007, 06:17 AM

I suppose musicality is like how someone interprets the music. But never mind, Chippa will tell you what is right and wrong.
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11-27-2007, 06:35 AM

1. Can anyone define Feel? (as in feel to the music)

2. and can anyone define Musicality (im sure this will be easier than number one)


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1. Yes i think i can, feel is how you interpret the music or what the music is telling you to do..its like a foreign guy talking to you..you might not be able to speak his language but judging by his "tone" you can translate what he is saying.
different instruments in music create different tones which give you different kinds of feels..that can come together to form one overall feel.

2. Musicality isn't necessarily KNOWING the music/sounds/instruments..its more about HOW you show the music..HOW your movements suit the feel/mood/tone of the music~~ wud u make big movements to a song that has small/subtle sounds?
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11-27-2007, 06:39 AM

u use the feel (soft, loud, moderate etc ) of the music to interpet how u dance to it

musicality is showing that u understand what the feel is and using that to dance to it.

i think feel is the thinking side of musicality...ask chippa...
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11-27-2007, 06:49 AM

i dont think everyone shud be saying "ask chippa"

im sure he will post sumting on his own accord~~
its like everyone is afraid to put their own opinion in!
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11-27-2007, 06:51 AM

Yeah, its cos we dont wanna be on the opposite stick of his argument, lol

u wanna repeat of that bible/homosexual thread?
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11-27-2007, 07:56 AM

i don't think those types of discussions belong in the funkstyles forums, why hasn't a mod moved or deleted them? fricken wack man...seriously!
uninformed, incomplete, and deluded opinions, beliefs, or "philosophies" all over the place.. those abysmal threads only spread ignorance, confusion, and chaos.
all rational people, thoughts, and presentation of beliefs are shot on site and immediately swallowed into the 5th dimension, back to the parallel universe where things must be going right.

ANYWAY,
what prompted you to define feel? here's my take:
when people use the expression "feel the music" they mean for you to listen and understand the music holistically so that your body will reflect that.
thus, feeling the music occurs first mentally in the mind with your perception; that perception is then manifested physically in your bodily movement.
i'm usin my common sense here people.

musicality is just how sensitive you are to the music. this doesn't necessarily mean hitting all the beats. it does mean effectively embodying the song itself though.


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11-27-2007, 09:30 AM

here's my very quick answer... very noobish answer i would say

1. feel... to me... is how much you potray the overall feeling of the song.

2. musicality... is how you potray the SOUNDS in the music




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11-27-2007, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 2(s)hawt View Post
i dont think everyone shud be saying "ask chippa"

im sure he will post sumting on his own accord~~
its like everyone is afraid to put their own opinion in!
I was thinking the saaaame thing. Yall are smart kids, and there have been many droppings in many posts by many different people about musicality (not as much about feel tho). I think yall can eventually flesh it out. I would rather see you guys struggle/discuss your thoughts than have me or anyone else come in, give our answer/interpretation, and have you take it as fact. You guys are doin well with the way your discussin it now!

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Yeah, its cos we dont wanna be on the opposite stick of his argument, lol

u wanna repeat of that bible/homosexual thread?
This literally made me laugh out loud, and im at work. At least when/if i argue, i try to back it up with reasons/explanations!




hahaha very nice Tane.
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11-27-2007, 02:15 PM

Yea guys, don't take Chippas word as God's. Take MINESES!!!
Just playin... but trust, if Chippa steps in the wrong direction, I'll tell his ass he's wrong.

On the other hand,
So far this convo IS panning out really well, and there ARE some good answers.
Now you guys are thinking about this dance in the realm of Modern dancing. And that's a good thing.

When you get into discussing FEELING it starts to get mighty complicated and it also begs certain questions (and really the next time you get down or are just chillin with ur ipod plugged in, think about these things):

How does the SONG move?
How can your movements follow the song's movements?
Is there an overall emotion or attitude you can pick up from the song? (i.e- if its gfunk does it make u feel gangsta, if it's kanye west does it make u feel arrogant, etc).
Can you find the feeling and the groove of the song by just sitting in the pocket and not using any musicality?

Good discussion, i'll pop in every now and then and add a cent or a few questions for y'alls consideration.




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11-27-2007, 03:24 PM

musicality to me is how well a dancer portrays the music with his moves/dance
you can understand and feel the music all you want in your head but if you can't translate it into moves to embody that then you have no musicality

also the better you get the more things you can portray in your dance from the music like subtle instruments/beats or small insertions of fast beats into the music or what not

for feel that seems like more of how you feel about the music im sure different people feel different things from the same song like how everyone would pick out something different if they were forced to pick out something that popped out to them in a book, so it seems its hard to define since its preference and opinion
like i probably would feel and stress the bass and quick parts in the song because it comes out at me more cause i like them more or a waver might like to stress wind/string instruments more because it's more appealing to him and his waves




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11-27-2007, 04:31 PM

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Just playin... but trust, if Chippa steps in the wrong direction, I'll tell his ass he's wrong.
Likewise! i would like to think that everyone would do that if someone is in the wrong. Nobody knows everything....






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11-27-2007, 09:31 PM

yes this is has turned out to be a very good thread..nice thread lay..some really nice responses


"How does the SONG move?
How can your movements follow the song's movements?
Is there an overall emotion or attitude you can pick up from the song? (i.e- if its gfunk does it make u feel gangsta, if it's kanye west does it make u feel arrogant, etc).
Can you find the feeling and the groove of the song by just sitting in the pocket and not using any musicality?"

invent what ur saying here is really valuable and im going to give it a go..i know of this stuff..but havnt really REALISED lol how this works

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I think a gud example is the gfunk one...u might do fresno with ur fists clenched together as a opposed to open and relaxed
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11-27-2007, 10:32 PM

You cant answer a question with the same words in the question as the answer! The trick is to use different words with similar meaning haha!

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i.e- if its gfunk does it make u feel gangsta, if it's kanye west does it make u feel arrogant, etc).
You hit the spot with those examples of feel in my terms

But feel can be a overall thing of a song or part(s) of song.


If you want to go into depth about feel, then u cant really do it without goin into depth with actual music itself (instrumentation, rhythm, dynamics etc)! But music itself is hard to describe.



Musicality i define it as, the skills you use to portray the sounds of a song, eg, riding, freaking, etc




A few definition that i use to describe dance in general

Dance: Movements done to portray the music.
Dance styles: Specific movements done to portray the music.

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