[MaDD]

I believe this was said to me by D.n.A. "You've gotta have your foundation before you can start bringing in your own shit." or something to that effect. In my personal opinion its better to get clean before you start making your own stuff, otherwise you leave yourself open to getting into bad habits which then become hard to break, I'm just now getting rid of mine slowly, one by one.

[Man of Confiden]

^^^right...but i can't completely agree wit what DNA said. Fo sho its a pretty wise idea, but in reality, there's no reason why u can't add in ur own shit while ur cleanin up ur foundation.

This is how i see it. In the beginnin ur technique is gonna suck, becuz well, ur a beginner. Even if you learn relatively fast, overall the technique aint gonna be that clean, which is fine at a beginner lvl! Now while ur doin endless sets of repeated footwork, why shuldn't u throw sumthin of your own flavor in there? Or why not throw in a tech u jus thought up? It will probably look shitty at first, which is fine, cuz chances are the rest of your foundation looks shitty since ur at a real newby lvl. But now instead of jus practicin ur six step or wutever, u can practice ur six step with ur new lil move added in there! Thus ur cleanin up ur foundation, and ur not beatin down your stylistic and creative side. I guess thats the best way to illustrate what im tryin to say. Its not necessarily ignorin technique, but rather ur addin in ur style while ur workin on technique, and u allow yourself to work on both at once so to speak. I find it more fun that way, but it culd take longer to get overall clean footwork becuz ur workin on other random stuff u made up as well. But if u dont' care about that...then why not haha?

[ampyun]

well i still like your way man of confiden but thats cause thats how i went lol. the moves i made up when i was had crappy style i can still throw into my sets i they just have better form now.

[AlphaTrion]

Yo, lettin ya know...I'm stickying this and I agree with Man of Confiden about spam. To get this as effecient as possible for those who want to get something from this, I will be deleting any spam from this thread so please stay on topic.

[Man of Confiden]

Hey thanks a lot Alpha!!! Especially for offerin to keep maintenance on this thread!

Anyway i'm gonna leave this open for discussion now. Like i said before, feel free to discuss whatever u wish about footwork, and the more controversial the better. Debates are perfectly healthy in my opinion, and it forces ppl to really think and share their ideas. If you posted a tip or sumthin, jus PM me and i'll check it out and add it in. Also i'm adding a "current discussion" and "past discussion" section so ppl who are viewin the guide for the first time can get an idea of whats bein discussed without sortin through tons of pages. Discussion is now open!

[AlphaTrion]

Learn your technique first and foremost. Your style comes a direct result from being comfortable with your technique.

You can't "force" style nor can you really "work on it." Doing so will make it look exactly what it is, forced. Or it will end up looking like someone else's style, not necessarily on purpose but it happens.

If you learn your technique and practice it consistently, your body will become more comfortable with the steps and your own style will emerge out of that.

[Man of Confiden]

^^ U know u jus made me realize that there's a difference between style and creativity! Like in my above example....makin up a move aint necessarily style. I think its more about how u do that move u created, THATS style. Makin up a move is jus inventin a technique. So really workin on a tech u created is jus that..workin on technique. Creative technique fo sho, but its still technical. So really, style and creativity are two related but completely different things. Never thought of that before.

I've always been so pissed becuz my tops are way better than my footwork. Most ppl really dig the style in my tops, and for the longest time i culdn't figure out how to get my footwork that good and stylistic. Now i know why! Bein "creative" wuzn't the answer. I wuz so comfy with the toprock movements (plus the ones that i made up) that it jus flowed together really well, and it looked hella funky becuz i didn't have to think about it! I guess that means i gotta really hit up the mass footwork drills, cuz i want my footwork to be up there wit my tops.

But i have a question i've always wantd the answer to. Why do you think that the word "style" often gets confused with "footwork". We all know that they are different things, but how did they get interchangeable like that?

[ExZeLiuR]

Originally Posted by Man of Confiden But i have a question i've always wantd the answer to. Why do you think that the word "style" often gets confused with "footwork". We all know that they are different things, but how did they get interchangeable like that?

A possible answer for that is simply, footwork is a very large gateway for creativity. It is much easier to develop a type of style out of footwork than it is with powermoves and freezes. Power and freezes are much more concentrated on technique, i.e. one specific way of doing the move. Footwork does have a base technique to learn but the total look can itself be easily malleable, whereas freezes, and especially power, it is much harder to develop a unique technique to execute the move, or even develop a new move altogether. This "malleability" is why people confuse the term style with footwork.

[Bboy Kam!kaz3]

Damn nice guide man, I've been breakin' for a year and a half or so and there stands some really good stuff what I didn't knew..!

Thanks :P Good job by the way, learnd lots of it [/

[DeNniZ]

can anybody explane me these moves: Walking CC's
jumping CC`'s
Miniflare
Shuffle
Please

[muffinturtle]

Yes this is stickied.

[AlphaTrion]

Originally Posted by DeNniZ can anybody explane me these moves: Walking CC's jumping CC`'s Miniflare Shuffle

Walking CC's: Basically you move forward at the same time you do the CC's.

Jumping CC's: Exactly how it sounds...as your "CC'ing" leg is coming up, you push off the ground with the other leg and turn your hips a little more.

Miniflare: (CCW) In footwork, you swing your Right leg up with your left leg following similar to the front half a flare. Instead of swinging the right leg back under to finish a flare you simply drop back down into footwork.

Shuffle: Quickly "shuffling" your feet during your footwork. You'd usually do this while in a crabwalk position, you just put your right foot out then pull it back while putting your left foot out, then repeat very quickly.

[DeNniZ]

thank you

[Man of Confiden]

Yo I got a request for all my stylish heads out there!!

Warning: What im about to suggest culd very easily cause injury, so proceed with caution!!

I had an experience a while ago! My hands were really fucked up from blisters and one opened up on me while i wuz practicin! So i culdn't break on the inner knuckles of that hand anymore. I didn't wanna stop practicin so i literally did footwork on my finger tips! Did that for a couple days, and when i went bak to the inner knuckles, my footwork felt and looked a lot cleaner! I dont kno if it wuz coincidence, or maybe the finger tip practice had some results! So here's my suggestion:

I need some volunteers (me included) to try dis out with me. In your session include one portion of footwork on finger tips (literally). I guess we'll do this for a few weeks and see how it turns out. At the end of the trial period, report any differences you notice in your footwork when u go bak to raised palms. Seriously tho...be careful. I've almost sprained my thumb bunches of times. Take it slow at first until you get used to it. Swipes, apple jacks, and whatever can still be done like normal. Or you culd switch those to raised palm if they aren't already.

Anybody down??

[LX-treme]

I already do that, I just noticed a few days ago lol, I was doing cc's, monkey swings and that stuff and I noticed I was doing it on my fingertips. It was mostly my right hand though.


btw I didn't do it for every move