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Thumbs up Good flare practice tips *updated 2.16.06 - 01-09-2005, 02:25 PM

LEARNERS NEED TO REMEMBER ON TOP OF HAVING PERFECT FORM:

Practicing flares is like lifting weights. You need to continuously workout all the muscles that are required in the movement. So that means, when you're tired of practicing your flare, you should do it more just to take those muscles to fatigue so they can heal, and end up stronger.


~~~~~The Difference Between this Guide and the Rest.~~~~
This guide was created while in the process of learning flares. Instead of someone who has mastered flares teaching someone how to do flares. For that reason, I believe I have some suggestions that maybe more helpful to people learning flares.



I've been practicing flares for more than 3 months now. Experimented with various practicing methods and training techniques until I realized what people have been advising in the forums is 100% true. But one thing that they did not put enough emphasis on (for practicing flares), that made my flare about 100% better, is what happens when the second leg goes under. If you're practicing flares. you'll notice sometimes, when u sweep that 2nd leg under, ur legs lock up and ur flare ends. You want that, that's a good thing, it means u're swinging that leg under, once you get past that, you'll feel that torque people are talking about and realize how a flare is really suppose to be done. People fail at the back because they're really not swinging that second leg under at all, so swing that leg. after that its just practice, practice, practice.
Don't give in, and think that if only you made it once all the way around with bad form, it means you're getting there. I found out the hard way and realized I was getting no where. I still have trouble remember to keep my legs straight as possible.

After u get use to the swing of ur 2nd leg so that its 2nd nature, focus on holding the other leg up until it becomes 2nd nature to.

The swings are the same as a windmills, one leg at a time. The main reason people bring their legs in at the back, is due to a natural sense that they're not going to make it all around. Bad habit, hard to correct, try to change it as soon as you're realizing you're doin it.. It's better to not finish one complete flare than be practicing ugly flares forever.


Make sure u rest well between each practice flare, its when u get tired that the bad forms kick in.

I'll post up more practice tips once I figure them out and have mastered continuous flares. Let me know if these tips help. They certainly helped me.



***Shifting Weight

Shifting weight

Although, it has already been mentioned that you should put your hand down fast, maybe the importance of it has not been drivin in.

When you're shifting weight properly, you should not be feeling any stress besides the stress u feel while walking on your hands. That means you should not be slamming your hand down on the ground and your arms should be locked.

If your hand slams on the ground its a sign you're not shifting your weight properly.

This is what you must focus on:
When all your weight is balance one hand, the other hand should be coming down to catch you. Not only does this cause ur weight to shift due to the extra force of the arm coming down, but it allows you to easily catch yourself because ur hand is already near the ground when it hits. If your hand is slamming, it means two things, you're weight never shifted at any point in time to one arm, or you hand is just not coming down fast enough.

Sounds repetitive, but its important to realize the reasons behind each problem inorder to better focus on correcting them.



*****Continuation
So, you're able to do one rotation. The first question I'd ask is if it TRULY is a full rotation, and not just a crappy version of one that you say to make yourself feel better. People have the tendency to lie to themselves, and thus never get flares down in good time. Anyhow, for continuation, you start feeling that continuation when you feel a significant lift in ur body when one leg kicks up. Flaring clockwise, when your right leg kicks up, and you feel that lift, that moment when the flares don't feel heavy, that's when you know you're well on your way to continuing flares.

Again, the speed of your hand placement and bringing them down quickly is very important if you want continuations. So when you have one rotation, focus on putting your hand down fast and finding that feel for the lift in that leg and your body.


***Feeling a pull to the left?

You should not be feeling any significant pulls in either horizontal direction, but your feet should be sweeping wide and circular. The only significant pull you should feel is vertical, and it isn't suppose to feel like hard work. Vertical as each leg lifts to allow the other to pass under, you should significantly feel that pull. A lot of being able to do a flare is training your muscles, which would mean you also need to allow them to heal and build up.


*****Something is better than nothing?
In my opinion, if you're the type that needs some kind of motivation to keep you going, then just go for ugly flares. You'll feel good about yourself. But I've seen people who have supposedly "mastered" flares do just horrendous looking flares. They got the continuation down, but never quite get over fixing their mistakes. Anyways, its up to you. If you feel you're good at breaking out of bad habits then go for it. Above is just the way I wish I could have learned it. Maybe I wouldn't have had to waste so much time fixing my problems.


Since I created this guide. I've gone from one to continuous flares. SO THERE IS HOPE! Once you hit continuous flares. REMEMBER REMEMBER, don't let those legs bend, don't let them start close in. I think that's of the up most importance if you want to get better and better at that point.

Keep On Flarin


Hope this helps.

Last edited by nidimin : 02-16-2006 at 04:24 AM.
 

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01-09-2005, 06:16 PM

omg, I figured out the exact same thing like months ago, but I could never figure out HOW to make it "swing under" .. I finally got it a couple days ago; the key is

1) Rotate your hips when you transition so when you're at the side, your ass is rotated 90 degrees from how it would be if you were standing facing the same way, and
2) lean and twist your torso about its x axis to get the torque for that leg.

part one gives you the clearance, and part two gives you the "swing" (torque).


Good tip! You hit it right on the money. The only part I disagree with is the part about mills going one leg at a time (they should be done with the hips and almost entirely without the legs imo but whatever) .. but you got the reason of failure and the explanation perfect.

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I agree, sticky this.
 

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01-25-2005, 11:56 PM

When i do my flares i do them ccw, when i swing my left leg and then kick my right leg towards the left side of my face i my left leg gets around but my right leg always hits the ground what should i do?
 

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Smile 01-26-2005, 01:46 AM

STICKY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but i still have a question..
the left hand is my left hand ( i dont call it ccw or cw becuz i dont know u mean the direction my legs or my whole body)
i find out that i have hard time to lean or get on my left hand...
is it there anyone way to do it? can u make it to ur next tip lol
or i juz have to buff up my left arm...?and how?

ehhhhhh? when i can be an expert breaka? =(
 

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02-06-2005, 05:15 PM

Well ive been workin on flares for about 2 weeks, im just now finnaly being able to get around without draggin in the back but still cant into a 2nd one, but what i found is that when transitioning to another hand kinda push off with your other hand your comin off of, this also helps get your body leaning the way it needs to lean, also like people say hips are where its at, i wasnt using my hips at first and i always would drag when going to the back, now i use my hips and i can get all the way to the front again.
 

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06-06-2005, 06:14 AM

yup sticky material.

Ya one more thing when we sweep the 1st leg should feel like a pull on the left side????

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really nice guide man, i have to show gratitude, thanks alot main this really helped out.

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08-03-2005, 12:40 AM

okie..question from pommy's speaking...
how can u actaully make urself to be horizontal when shift urself to the second hand...? u have to be strong or there is a techique for that ...like dive my head or?

can u answer?

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08-14-2005, 09:06 AM

Originally posted by Mistah P
omg, I figured out the exact same thing like months ago, but I could never figure out HOW to make it "swing under" .. I finally got it a couple days ago; the key is

1) Rotate your hips when you transition so when you're at the side, your ass is rotated 90 degrees from how it would be if you were standing facing the same way, and
2) lean and twist your torso about its x axis to get the torque for that leg.

part one gives you the clearance, and part two gives you the "swing" (torque).

Thanx this tip helped a lot and thanx to u 2 nidimin for updates

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Re: Good flare practice tips *updated 6.6 - 09-12-2005, 05:08 PM

Originally posted by nidimin
~~~~~The Difference Between this Guide and the Rest.~~~~
This guide was created while in the process of learning flares. Instead of someone who has mastered flares teaching someone how to do flares. For that reason, I believe I have some suggestions that maybe more helpful to people learning flares.



I've been practicing flares for more than 3 months now. Experimented with various practicing methods and training techniques until I realized what people have been advising in the forums is 100% true. But one thing that they did not put enough emphasis on (for practicing flares), that made my flare about 100% better, is what happens when the second leg goes under. If you're practicing flares. you'll notice sometimes, when u sweep that 2nd leg under, ur legs lock up and ur flare ends. You want that, that's a good thing, it means u're swinging that leg under, once you get past that, you'll feel that torque people are talking about and realize how a flare is really suppose to be done. People fail at the back because they're really not swinging that second leg under at all, so swing that leg. after that its just practice, practice, practice.
Don't give in, and think that if only you made it once all the way around with bad form, it means you're getting there. I found out the hard way and realized I was getting no where. I still have trouble remember to keep my legs straight as possible.

After u get use to the swing of ur 2nd leg so that its 2nd nature, focus on holding the other leg up until it becomes 2nd nature to.

The swings are the same as a windmills, one leg at a time. The main reason people bring their legs in at the back, is due to a natural sense that they're not going to make it all around. Bad habit, hard to correct, try to change it as soon as you're realizing you're doin it.. It's better to not finish one complete flare than be practicing ugly flares forever.


Make sure u rest well between each practice flare, its when u get tired that the bad forms kick in.

I'll post up more practice tips once I figure them out and have mastered continuous flares. Let me know if these tips help. They certainly helped me.



***Shifting Weight

Shifting weight

Although, it has already been mentioned that you should put your hand down fast, maybe the importance of it has not been drivin in.

When you're shifting weight properly, you should not be feeling any stress besides the stress u feel while walking on your hands. That means you should not be slamming your hand down on the ground and your arms should be locked.

If your hand slams on the ground its a sign you're not shifting your weight properly.

This is what you must focus on:
When all your weight is balance one hand, the other hand should be coming down to catch you. Not only does this cause ur weight to shift due to the extra force of the arm coming down, but it allows you to easily catch yourself because ur hand is already near the ground when it hits. If your hand is slamming, it means two things, you're weight never shifted at any point in time to one arm, or you hand is just not coming down fast enough.

Sounds repetitive, but its important to realize the reasons behind each problem inorder to better focus on correcting them.



*****Continuation
So, you're able to do one rotation. The first question I'd ask is if it TRULY is a full rotation, and not just a crappy version of one that you say to make yourself feel better. People have the tendency to lie to themselves, and thus never get flares down in good time. Anyhow, for continuation, you start feeling that continuation when you feel a significant lift in ur body when one leg kicks up. Flaring clockwise, when your right leg kicks up, and you feel that lift, that moment when the flares don't feel heavy, that's when you know you're well on your way to continuing flares.

Again, the speed of your hand placement and bringing them down quickly is very important if you want continuations. So when you have one rotation, focus on putting your hand down fast and finding that feel for the lift in that leg and your body.


***Feeling a pull to the left?

You should not be feeling any significant pulls in either horizontal direction, but your feet should be sweeping wide and circular. The only significant pull you should feel is vertical, and it isn't suppose to feel like hard work. Vertical as each leg lifts to allow the other to pass under, you should significantly feel that pull. A lot of being able to do a flare is training your muscles, which would mean you also need to allow them to heal and build up.


Since I created this guide. I've gone from one to continuous flares. SO THERE IS HOPE! Once you hit continuous flares. REMEMBER REMEMBER, don't let those legs bend, don't let them start close in. I think that's of the up most importance if you want to get better and better at that point.

Keep On Flarin


Hope this helps.
except its much better to get ugly flares n perfect them for most people than to never fnish one in hopes u can start with perfect flares

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agreed. once u have something to start out with, it's so much better cous u can actually work with it.
 

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09-22-2005, 10:08 AM

Nice guide really liked it. One thing i noticed to is that after bein able to do one flare for some time and when you cont pract. you suddenly go alot higher with your flares which helps alot with continous ones I think its best to practice every day

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09-26-2005, 02:14 AM

i need help, i can do one round. gud one. my legs r wide open, bend a bit but can consider as straight... its hard 2 keep it really straight, at the back is high enough but the problem is 2 give the 2nd one,i do clockwise, when i give the 2nd, i concentrate on my left leg and keep it in the air, but still my body doesnt lift up so much. so my 2nd round is not so high and i stop there, no more 3rd or more... plz somebody help me. how 2 make continuous flare...

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