Flare Problem + Answers

Ek0 · **Flare Problem + Answers -** 07-17-2003, 09:00 AM

okay, flares... people are still having lots of questions about em, ill try to think of all the problems I can and post them with answers.

Before I start... Flares are purely about the correct motions in which you do the flare. Someone who magically has the correct motions for flares will do them much better than someone who has the feel for them and has been trying for months.. Why? This is because flares are all about momentum and your hips. To do a flare you must control your momentum to its fullest, its what keeps you off the ground and going around, thats why if you kick wrong or in the wrong motion, your flare is a complete failure. Flares are AROUND, not up and down.

Terms...(Just so no one gets confused)
Kicking Leg (initial leg) - Which ever leg you are starting your flares with. (the leg the sweeps under the other)
2nd Leg - The leg that you kick up whenever you sweep the Kicking leg under.
1st hand - hand you start with on the ground when you flare.
2nd hand - hand you put down as you flare.

1.) Land on your butt after you sweep under.
-Personally I never had this problem, but there are many reasons for this to occur.
a.) You may just be kicking your non swinging leg not hard enough so you dont lift your hips up. Try to kick your face with that leg, and keep your hips up.
b.) You could be swinging your initial kicking leg at a wrong angle and losing your momentum for the flare. You must kick low, almost at the ankel of your foot that jumps and sweep around and up, if you dont, your kicking leg will send its momentum straight up, and you will come straight back down.
c.) You may not be placing your 2nd hand down fast enough, you want to put it down quite fast, right after your kicking leg sweeps under your jumping foot.

2.) Your 2nd leg drags when you sweep it under.
-This is probably the biggest problem everyone has.

a.)You are not kicking your left leg high enough. If you dont kick high enough with your initial kicking leg, and dont hold it. Your flares are gonna end because if you dont kick high enough, you're losing all your momentum. If you cant hold it, you're not correctly doing your flare. When you reach the V in front of you in your flare, your right leg should start its sweep under as the left is going up because if not yes, your leg will strain and you wont be able to lift it up and you will lose all your momentum. What does losing your momentum mean? it means your flare ends.
-Start your sweep with your 2nd leg while your 1st leg is kicking up.
-Lean to the side of your 2nd hand
b.)You may be lifting your 1st hand too quickly and losing some height that you needed. What happens is if you havent shifted most of your weight to your 2nd hand and pull out your first, you are going to lose some height and lean to the side that you're trying to get your 2nd leg under and drag your leg.
-Keep your hand down.

3.) cant keep your flares going...
-Practice... Practice... practice... and remeber, kick the right way to keep all your power.

ALSO, THIS IS FOR NUMBER 2 AND 3. KEEP YOUR HIPS UP AND USE THEM! HIPS AND KICKING CORRECTLY ARE WHAT FLARES ARE ALL ABOUT. PLEASE REMEBER THIS! KICKING CORRECTLY GIVES YOU POWER/MOMENTUM AND MAKES FLARES POSSIBLE!

Good Luck, hope this helps.

gorrybreaker · 07-17-2003, 03:04 PM

thats good, but you didnt mention my problem but anyway here it is. i flare ccw, Ok i can start my flare no problem and i can get to the back with no problem, but when im leaving the back of the flare and about to come around to the front my left leg scrapes the ground, this is really pissen me off. can you tell me what is going wrong

Ek0 · 07-17-2003, 08:56 PM

Id say... remeber to lean to your left and kick your right leg up just like when you started so you get more lift. ::shrug:: I you had a clip i could tell you better, theres many reasons to the same problem with flares.

gorrybreaker · 07-18-2003, 02:30 PM

ok cool buddy thanks

07-18-2003, 04:52 PM

nice guide man

07-18-2003, 04:53 PM

ohh yeah and u couldve added one more thing.... try to turn the ground wit ur hands wen ur at the back of the flares to gain more momentum and speed

planeswalker · 07-18-2003, 05:36 PM

iono if you said this already but how do you get ur ass up higher at the back of your flare? i can get around pretty good but when i get to the back my ass isnt high enough so i cant go into my second flare.

thanks

07-18-2003, 06:59 PM

well... all of that comes from the first kick u gotta kick hard enough, and remember and i dunno how to stress enough on this, flares arent swingin up and down but from left to right... so dont try force ur body to go up in ur first kick( front of the flare) or else ull crash down at the back

DaPrinceOmar · 07-18-2003, 07:38 PM

i dunno if this is much help but. i duno if any of u kno DokNock, hes in the battle munkeys crew. well he taught me basically every move i kno and on flares he said. its all about momentum u dont need alot of strenght unless u wanna keep going. also swing, DONT JUMP, + i c alot of people when they try the dont put their hand down fast enough 2 bring it back.. o and if u wanna practice on keepin on going, get a hula hoop.. lol im serious it works, even dok nock did so. it will help wit the way u rotate ur hips while doin flares.

david_LEEDS · 07-19-2003, 05:35 AM

Yea i know DoKnock hes in the new christina/lil kim vid! u hav a famous friend.

Xeph0n · 07-20-2003, 10:50 AM

true... gravity really sux sometimes.... and my flare problem still ain't solved...

07-23-2003, 07:00 PM

WHOA...I GIVE YOU MAD PROPZ DAWG....NICE GUIDE..IT AKTUALLY KINDA HELPED ME MAKE MY FLARES LOOK NICER...I KAN DO ABOUT 2 OR 3 ROUNDS..BUT YEAH..DEY ARE ALRYTE..

Inpulse · 07-25-2003, 08:23 PM

I can do 1 good flare, but I can't continue. I always fall on my butt, need help

Bboy Twitch · 07-25-2003, 09:33 PM

the thing i have a problem with is the gettin up into a flare part. like i how to swing my legs and everything but i still dont get how to actualy get up and goin

Bboy Twitch · 07-28-2003, 04:44 PM

okay, i've practised alot in the past couple of days, and now i can get up into a flare but when it comes to the point where i have to lift up mah hand to let mah legs and mah waist move behind me, i fall and hit the floor hard

. pleez help!!!

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Ek0 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 5 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vegas	Flare Problem + Answers - 07-17-2003, 09:00 AM okay, flares... people are still having lots of questions about em, ill try to think of all the problems I can and post them with answers. Before I start... Flares are purely about the correct motions in which you do the flare. Someone who magically has the correct motions for flares will do them much better than someone who has the feel for them and has been trying for months.. Why? This is because flares are all about momentum and your hips. To do a flare you must control your momentum to its fullest, its what keeps you off the ground and going around, thats why if you kick wrong or in the wrong motion, your flare is a complete failure. Flares are AROUND, not up and down. Terms...(Just so no one gets confused) Kicking Leg (initial leg) - Which ever leg you are starting your flares with. (the leg the sweeps under the other) 2nd Leg - The leg that you kick up whenever you sweep the Kicking leg under. 1st hand - hand you start with on the ground when you flare. 2nd hand - hand you put down as you flare. 1.) Land on your butt after you sweep under. -Personally I never had this problem, but there are many reasons for this to occur. a.) You may just be kicking your non swinging leg not hard enough so you dont lift your hips up. Try to kick your face with that leg, and keep your hips up. b.) You could be swinging your initial kicking leg at a wrong angle and losing your momentum for the flare. You must kick low, almost at the ankel of your foot that jumps and sweep around and up, if you dont, your kicking leg will send its momentum straight up, and you will come straight back down. c.) You may not be placing your 2nd hand down fast enough, you want to put it down quite fast, right after your kicking leg sweeps under your jumping foot. 2.) Your 2nd leg drags when you sweep it under. -This is probably the biggest problem everyone has. a.)You are not kicking your left leg high enough. If you dont kick high enough with your initial kicking leg, and dont hold it. Your flares are gonna end because if you dont kick high enough, you're losing all your momentum. If you cant hold it, you're not correctly doing your flare. When you reach the V in front of you in your flare, your right leg should start its sweep under as the left is going up because if not yes, your leg will strain and you wont be able to lift it up and you will lose all your momentum. What does losing your momentum mean? it means your flare ends. -Start your sweep with your 2nd leg while your 1st leg is kicking up. -Lean to the side of your 2nd hand b.)You may be lifting your 1st hand too quickly and losing some height that you needed. What happens is if you havent shifted most of your weight to your 2nd hand and pull out your first, you are going to lose some height and lean to the side that you're trying to get your 2nd leg under and drag your leg. -Keep your hand down. 3.) cant keep your flares going... -Practice... Practice... practice... and remeber, kick the right way to keep all your power. ALSO, THIS IS FOR NUMBER 2 AND 3. KEEP YOUR HIPS UP AND USE THEM! HIPS AND KICKING CORRECTLY ARE WHAT FLARES ARE ALL ABOUT. PLEASE REMEBER THIS! KICKING CORRECTLY GIVES YOU POWER/MOMENTUM AND MAKES FLARES POSSIBLE! Good Luck, hope this helps.


gorrybreaker Insane In The Brain Respect: 1 Posts: 12 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: IRELAND	07-17-2003, 03:04 PM thats good, but you didnt mention my problem but anyway here it is. i flare ccw, Ok i can start my flare no problem and i can get to the back with no problem, but when im leaving the back of the flare and about to come around to the front my left leg scrapes the ground, this is really pissen me off. can you tell me what is going wrong
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Ek0 Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 5 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vegas	07-17-2003, 08:56 PM Id say... remeber to lean to your left and kick your right leg up just like when you started so you get more lift. ::shrug:: I you had a clip i could tell you better, theres many reasons to the same problem with flares.


gorrybreaker Insane In The Brain Respect: 1 Posts: 12 Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: IRELAND	07-18-2003, 02:30 PM ok cool buddy thanks
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Posts: n/a	07-18-2003, 04:53 PM ohh yeah and u couldve added one more thing.... try to turn the ground wit ur hands wen ur at the back of the flares to gain more momentum and speed
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planeswalker Banned Respect: 1 Posts: 8 Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Vallejo	07-18-2003, 05:36 PM iono if you said this already but how do you get ur ass up higher at the back of your flare? i can get around pretty good but when i get to the back my ass isnt high enough so i cant go into my second flare. thanks


Posts: n/a	07-18-2003, 06:59 PM well... all of that comes from the first kick u gotta kick hard enough, and remember and i dunno how to stress enough on this, flares arent swingin up and down but from left to right... so dont try force ur body to go up in ur first kick( front of the flare) or else ull crash down at the back
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DaPrinceOmar Kashmiri Bboy Respect: 1 Posts: 437 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Riverside California	07-18-2003, 07:38 PM i dunno if this is much help but. i duno if any of u kno DokNock, hes in the battle munkeys crew. well he taught me basically every move i kno and on flares he said. its all about momentum u dont need alot of strenght unless u wanna keep going. also swing, DONT JUMP, + i c alot of people when they try the dont put their hand down fast enough 2 bring it back.. o and if u wanna practice on keepin on going, get a hula hoop.. lol im serious it works, even dok nock did so. it will help wit the way u rotate ur hips while doin flares.
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Posts: n/a	07-23-2003, 07:00 PM WHOA...I GIVE YOU MAD PROPZ DAWG....NICE GUIDE..IT AKTUALLY KINDA HELPED ME MAKE MY FLARES LOOK NICER...I KAN DO ABOUT 2 OR 3 ROUNDS..BUT YEAH..DEY ARE ALRYTE..
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Inpulse Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 5 Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Galveston	07-25-2003, 08:23 PM I can do 1 good flare, but I can't continue. I always fall on my butt, need help
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Bboy Twitch Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa	07-25-2003, 09:33 PM the thing i have a problem with is the gettin up into a flare part. like i how to swing my legs and everything but i still dont get how to actualy get up and goin


Bboy Twitch Registered User Respect: 1 Posts: 40 Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Ottawa	07-28-2003, 04:44 PM okay, i've practised alot in the past couple of days, and now i can get up into a flare but when it comes to the point where i have to lift up mah hand to let mah legs and mah waist move behind me, i fall and hit the floor hard . pleez help!!!