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K1llaCam
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Reflekt vs KillaCam - 01-19-2005, 08:53 PM

*5 bars max
*first to 3
*no biting/dr/recycling/hate/bs
*no dq, jus don't take forever or mention u won't be droppin yet or w.e

i guess i'll drop first cuz of callout

lol, i jus copied some otha niggas rules...damn im lazy
Edit* I read them rules and they were wack, i switched it up a lil

Last edited by K1llaCam : 01-20-2005 at 08:40 PM.
 

K1llaCam
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01-20-2005, 08:51 PM

Kid i aint no breakdancer. I pop... straight boogaloo and dance
Not that it matters...only flares he pulls off is his old navy pants
Just one line i need to write, and kid's already lost this fight
Someone give this cat a tutorial...on spelling his name right
Damn son you got owned and I just spat off the dome
You got knocked outta the park...and not just your trailer home


I only put up 8 but u can go 10 if u want...good luck
 

Reflekt
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01-21-2005, 08:26 AM

It’s the infamous, representing my land of talking syndicates,
Kickin this, rhymes ‘ripping lips’ like amateur chicks losing innocence,
You ‘feeling’ this? Coz I’m ‘squashing’ bitter toys with vengeance
A convict descendant*, honestly defendin’ your rights to keep pretendin’,
To be an emcee, your lines will need mending’ after this post sends in,
I’ll be ‘tearin in’, coz your boy Reflekt ‘cut’ you up like a ‘cesarean’,
So stop starin and start darin’, I quit carin’ but stay glaring,
Lost my bearing’s battling you, coz I cut you up, mic’ tearin,
I spell my name with a ‘k’, but kid, you couldn’t fathom me,
I’ll ‘spit’ down ya cavity, next time learn to count before you battle me…

* i'm an Australian.


VOTES PLEASE


Reflekt - Soundclick

Abused as artists of a culture that’s detrimental
Afraid they’ll end up dead whilst still holdin a pencil…
 

Mode
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mode vote - 01-23-2005, 09:47 AM

killacam - hmm... i can read your flows, sounds like it would be better if you spit it on a mic.. but was decent anyway.. punches seemed original enough.. but not overly hard.. wordplay wasn't bad.. i woulda liked to see some more bars.. 'n i expected alot more from you.

reflekt - feelin the opener, already decent wordplay 'n steady flows.. punches were decent.. nothing really hard though.. pretty good drop.

overall, even though reflekt had a longer verse.. i feel it was still pretty close.. reflekt had better flows, but was pretty weak except a few nice lines.. whereas killacam packed a decent enough punch in his short verse, but flows weren't as nice.. both had decent wordplay.. i'ma vote for reflekt 'cos he had some good punches 'n his flows were better 'n both had good wordplay so overall reflekt edged this one out i think.

REFLEKT

peace.

 
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01-23-2005, 01:56 PM

aite i'ma do this bar by bar so klllacam cant bitch if i vote against him, i aint no dickrider.

killacam

Kid i aint no breakdancer. I pop... straight boogaloo and dance
Not that it matters...only flares he pulls off is his old navy pants

^^flow was pretty weak, the rythym was off, first line was filler, second had decent wordplay and concept but the lack of flow made the punch lose impact.

Just one line i need to write, and kid's already lost this fight
Someone give this cat a tutorial...on spelling his name right

^^flowed much better than the first bar, first line again was pure filler, second line had another good concept but it wasnt very hard, nice idea tho.

Damn son you got owned and I just spat off the dome
You got knocked outta the park...and not just your trailer home

^^your best bar, flow was tight, good wordplay, nice punch.

reflekt

It’s the infamous, representing my land of talking syndicates,
Kickin this, rhymes ‘ripping lips’ like amateur chicks losing innocence,

^^flow was nice good rhyme scheme, coulda been nicer with multies, wordplay was good but the punch was a bit mis-aimed in my opinion

You ‘feeling’ this? Coz I’m ‘squashing’ bitter toys with vengeance
A convict descendant*, honestly defendin’ your rights to keep pretendin’,

^^tight flow again, nice multie in the second line, punch was better than the last bar but still not as hard as it could be, nice wordplay, in the first line, i think the bar woulda been better if the second line was as good as the first.

To be an emcee, your lines will need mending’ after this post sends in,
I’ll be ‘tearin in’, coz your boy Reflekt ‘cut’ you up like a ‘cesarean’,

^^flow was sweet, you came much more direct with this one too, it seemed almost like a vv bar but i think it worked ok

So stop starin and start darin’, I quit carin’ but stay glaring,
Lost my bearing’s battling you, coz I cut you up, mic’ tearin,

^^flow was nice, but this was a filler bar i think.

I spell my name with a ‘k’, but kid, you couldn’t fathom me,
I’ll ‘spit’ down ya cavity, next time learn to count before you battle me…

^^ooo u got him with this one, nice closer. good personal, tight flow.

conclusion

killacam - you have some real nice punch concepts but could do with a better delivery, you need to get it out of your head that rap isnt about complexity and rhyme schemes aswell as flow, even text should have flow, otherwise it isnt even rap, it's literature. if you had dropped more bars you may have had a nice verse, but the lack of flow, rhyme skills (ie multies, inners, callbacks, transitional rhymes etc) and delivery on the punches combined with the 'i cant be arsed to write a full verse' made your drop appear very weak, certainly not in the caliber u have been claiming all over the site.

reflekt - almost the entire opposite to killacam, you have the flow and rhymes (although you could do with some multies to make it more interesting) but the punches were lacking 'punch' if you get me, your drop was almost like a 'big reflekt up' verse ather than a 'put killacam down' verse, work on your punches and making them direct and you will have a good solid foundation for battling, u can rap, now u need to learn to make the raps more effective.

although killacam had better concepts for his punches, the lack of flow and basic rapping techniques really let him down in this one, if he woulda had crisper, more technical rhymes his punches would have had a harder effect and he woulda taken this, however although reflekt had weaker concepts in his punches he totally outweighed killacam on actual rapping techniques.

my vote = reflekt

p.s. killacam, this isnt a dickride vote, i actualy think u have potential to be a good rapper, but u need to drop this whole bullshit 'y'all are wack and i'm better' act because frankly, you have no foundation, there is no structure in your rhymes, no real rhythm or flow and very little actual rapping skill. contrary to your beliefs, text is still emceeing or rapping, and therefore must have certain foundations, rhyme, flow, and rhythm, you could have the most incredible wordplay, but if it doesnt flow and has no rhythm or rhyme, it may aswell be random sentences posted after each other. before u call me wack again, go listen to my tracks, do u know what they are? it's called RAPPING, that means that i get a microphone and i spit rhymes with flow and record them, instead of talkin bullshit about somethin i know fuck all about. when u drop some tracks, then u can say i'm wack, until then, get off your own dick and learn some foundation.

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01-24-2005, 02:22 AM

KillaCam - I really like the concepts and it was a pretty good verse. Nothing too too wrong with the flow and I could see inner attempts made and they weren't too bad. This was a nice little verse overall but I'd like to see you drop longer verses to see how you'd play it out. Longer verses require more skill and more dynamic capabilities and would help you develop your style a lot more. Right now you seem to be the guy who comes in with w few good punches and just leaves which really doesnt get respected because of the seeming unversatility. I liked you verse overall.

Reflekt - You had a more complex scheme and flow but the punches didn't come as strong as your opponent. Some parts seemed to be compromised for flow which could have otherwised been used to set up better punches. The complexity of the flow didn't match the strength of the punches which gave a sort of unbalancing effect which rendered your verse a bit offputting to me. I'd work on getting punches that are bit more clever and setting them up a lot better for maximum effectiveness. Good job though.

Vote- I liked Killa's verse here better than his one in Dobb's battle. It wasn't as complex flow-wise as Reflekt, but it wasn't so bad of a flow that notched it down significantly. I think Killa showed more skilled punches with a decent flow that didn't throw everything off and so I'ma give my vote to him. I think heeding my recommendations may help in the future however. Good luck both.

Killa



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01-24-2005, 10:37 AM

aight, killacam had an alright flow, liked the tutorial line. the flare line was alright, woulda been better if i wasn't sayin to myself "who gives a fuck, this battle is about who rhymes, not dances" but still, aight punch. reflekt had cleaner lines, better sounding when i rhymed through it with the flow an shit. i'm gonna have to go with killacam though, cuz reflekts verse sounds much better, but he spends almost all of it talking about how he's gonna rip the mic up an shit.

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02-02-2005, 02:43 AM

Killa Cam

Nice verse never seen you around before, but ya your flow got choppy at times I felt you stretched some things. Wordplay was ok nothing spectacular. I think you needed some harder punches in there and throw in a couple personals. Overall that was a pretty good verse

Reflekt

Flow was on point, never seen you around and you showed some skill. Got flow got some wordplay only thingI liked was the cesarean line. Awesome closer and it just flowed so nicely. But I think you need some harder punches. Good verse but step up the wordplay...some of it was whack and played out especially that line about the ripping lips. It doesnt always have to be related to porn. It was cool with Wu tang but now its just overdone

Vote Reflekt on account of better flow and harder punches on the cuts....that felt something like hard punches to the gut. Haha

Since this battle is done and im posting anyway...any of yall cats wanna battle? Holla at me, I havent done this in a while
 

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02-02-2005, 01:28 PM

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