[Takuya]

Well, stabbed mills are typically the basic mills. Unstabbed mills would be where you're rolling on the ground with your arms tucked in, or somewhere else like in barrel mills or nutcrackers.

Crickets are easy but developing the muscles and joints for them is what takes time for most people. If you're already good for that in terms of your elbows and wrists then you should give it a shot. Then eventually it'll move on to something even doper like jackhammers.

A swipes set (as in more than 3 repetitions) can be dope if you got dope swipes. I remember seeing this one breaker from... I think it was Wanted Posse. He did these really dope master swipes that were pretty high, they looked like air flares, but he kept his legs straight and swiped them so high. It kinda looked like he was doing cartwheels with the height he was getting. He did like 6 repetitions, or more. I don't remember, it was like 5 years ago when I saw the video.

[orangestyle]

Originally Posted by RollThemDyce I mean, I'm just doing something for 5-10 seconds or so, and swipes don't seem like they're something you do over and over again for that period of time. And yeah, Toyz teaches a small class of like 5 people every week for about an hour. 'Stabbed' mills? Crickets? I'll look those up, but would those be something that I could learn with Toyz as a teacher? EDIT: At the post above me, by started you mean bboy'ing in general or started on mills? I have for both, but I can't seem to get my mills going too well yet.

you've gotten a very good handglide freeze first right? collapsing stabbed mills isn't going to go to well if your freeze isn't stable

[RollThemDyce]

So...I've gotten really crappy swipes so far, but it's something. I asked my friend about mills and he said they probably wouldn't be worth showing if I got it in that short period of time like you guys, so I guess I won't be doing that (I do have a good hanglide freeze though, and I think my callie [is that how you spell it?] is pretty decent).

@Takuya: What exactly are crickets though?...

Also @Some guy on the other page: Yeah, it's DC dance collective. You go there?

[mohamads219]

just be sick the day you have to do it

[BboyPlazma]

just say no don't embarrass yourself just because u wanna b-boy

[orangestyle]

Originally Posted by RollThemDyce So...I've gotten really crappy swipes so far, but it's something. I asked my friend about mills and he said they probably wouldn't be worth showing if I got it in that short period of time like you guys, so I guess I won't be doing that (I do have a good hanglide freeze though, and I think my callie [is that how you spell it?] is pretty decent). @Takuya: What exactly are crickets though?... Also @Some guy on the other page: Yeah, it's DC dance collective. You go there?

crickets: look them up on youtube. if you have an okay one handed handglide freeze, they aren't that hard.

[Bboy-aRze]

Originally Posted by orangestyle crickets: look them up on youtube. if you have an okay one handed handglide freeze, they aren't that hard.

Garentee he'l s*** himself when he sees them though , and think wtf!!!

[Sil3nce]

Most people outside the hip hop community only consider us good at what we do if we have a very high level of power, this cant be achieved in a month (unless your a young japanese prodigy). I say dont show, practice a while, and go all out later on.

[MattRT]

alright man ima help u jus cus iv been in a situation like this b4.
as far as power moves u totally fucked urself cus ur not gonna have any thing like windmills or flares in 3 weeks. heres a list of stuff that u can learn in that time that will please a crowd and u wont look like a total douchbag =P.

-crickets (MAYBE)
this is prolly the only real power move u can have in that time especially cus u already have handglide down. but ur gonna have 2 practice this a lot/

-swipes

-back flip
if u have any gymnastics gyms in ur area go down n c if they have any open gyms so u can safely learn. i know it sounds scary but being a sprinter i think u can do it pretty easily

-any air freeze (pikes. nikes, L kicks)

-ground freezes (baby freeze, chair freeze)
DONT WASTE UR TIME ON THE AIRCHAIR.

-head slide

those r the things that i think u can learn in that amount of time. take some of it or all of it. if u dont know what some thing is go 2 youtube n look it up.

[BboyReload]

Ok-respect to silence, we love those japanese prodigies.
Swipes-took me 3 weeks.
Considering you already have a coindrop, you should be able to have clean windmills in like 3 weeks. Give it a try. Swipes are always impressive, you should give those a shot.
Crickets are nice.
Considering you have one-handed handstands, why don't you try handhops? One hand handhops can take like 2 weeks to learn. Once you get there, learn some scissor kicks. THey kick ass. GOOD LUCK!

[Takuya]

Originally Posted by Sil3nce Most people outside the hip hop community only consider us good at what we do if we have a very high level of power,

I'm deeply saddened by this truth. And I think this is what people will be looking for in your show, RollThemDyce.

It's kinda sad cuz when I introduce myself as a b-boy (and have to explain it using the word "breakdancer") then they ask for a demo and I start doing toprocks, downrocks and end in some freeze, they look kinda disappointed cuz they tell me they were expecting like double backflips and other acrobatics and headspins and stuff. It kinda pisses me off because at cyphers people tell me they like my style. Some guy once came up to us while we were practicing in the mall and he did one single backflip with no other form of dancing and he acted like he just owned us. He thinks he's a b-boy already. D:

Haha, sorry. Had to rant.

Just be careful man. Don't give these people the wrong impression of our culture.

[RollThemDyce]

Originally Posted by MattRT alright man ima help u jus cus iv been in a situation like this b4. as far as power moves u totally fucked urself cus ur not gonna have any thing like windmills or flares in 3 weeks. heres a list of stuff that u can learn in that time that will please a crowd and u wont look like a total douchbag =P. -crickets (MAYBE) this is prolly the only real power move u can have in that time especially cus u already have handglide down. but ur gonna have 2 practice this a lot/ -swipes -back flip if u have any gymnastics gyms in ur area go down n c if they have any open gyms so u can safely learn. i know it sounds scary but being a sprinter i think u can do it pretty easily -any air freeze (pikes. nikes, L kicks) -ground freezes (baby freeze, chair freeze) DONT WASTE UR TIME ON THE AIRCHAIR. -head slide those r the things that i think u can learn in that amount of time. take some of it or all of it. if u dont know what some thing is go 2 youtube n look it up.

I tried starting up L-Kicks, but my 1 hand stands aren't that great yet. 1 Leg swipes?

Originally Posted by BboyReload Ok-respect to silence, we love those japanese prodigies. Swipes-took me 3 weeks. Considering you already have a coindrop, you should be able to have clean windmills in like 3 weeks. Give it a try. Swipes are always impressive, you should give those a shot. Crickets are nice. Considering you have one-handed handstands, why don't you try handhops? One hand handhops can take like 2 weeks to learn. Once you get there, learn some scissor kicks. THey kick ass. GOOD LUCK!

Well, everyone's saying windmills aren't the way to go......Crickets, I tried them and they kinda work? But I don't think I can clean them up by then. I'm thinking a 1 leg swipes set - What are scissor kicks?

Originally Posted by Takuya I'm deeply saddened by this truth. And I think this is what people will be looking for in your show, RollThemDyce.

Yeah I know - Not gonna lie though, that was my first impression from watching bboys, crazy power moves and balance skills. Although I did think stuff like the top rock was really interesting as I have a huge footwork background as a c-walker.

Originally Posted by Takuya It's kinda sad cuz when I introduce myself as a b-boy (and have to explain it using the word "breakdancer") then they ask for a demo and I start doing toprocks, downrocks and end in some freeze, they look kinda disappointed cuz they tell me they were expecting like double backflips and other acrobatics and headspins and stuff. It kinda pisses me off because at cyphers people tell me they like my style. Some guy once came up to us while we were practicing in the mall and he did one single backflip with no other form of dancing and he acted like he just owned us. He thinks he's a b-boy already. D: Haha, sorry. Had to rant. Just be careful man. Don't give these people the wrong impression of our culture.

(....Is it cyphers or ciphers?)
That's kinda stupid :S. Although I have ciphered (that's how I've spelled it...) with jerkers before, but they're not retarded jerkers who think they can bboy because they can jerk. I'm not trying to do anything really showy, I just wanna figure something out that isn't too fail and will actually help me in regular ciphers too.

Can anyone explain to me/Give me a good guide or link to 1 leg swipes? Night1Fall's guide is good, but doesn't seem to be working for me...

Another stupid question: What does 'stab' mean?...

[orangestyle]

L-Kicks: you don't need one handed handstands actually, all you need is to be able to do a handstand for around a second. they're easier to do than you think

btw when I was saying you can get swipes by the show, I was referring to 1 legged swipes if I wasn't clear.
if you can do a back to baby, it helps because it's sort of similar in a way. spinning is more important than height, so put more of your power into spinning your arms. as you swipe your arms over first, lift the free leg up as high as you can.
this tutorial helped me a lot before:



people spell it cypher

stab usually refers to when you put your elbow into your body for a freeze. handglides, turtle, airchair. but people say stab for airbabies also when you put your knee above your elbow.

[RollThemDyce]

Just wanted to let you guys know - I did the performance, I swiped, people applauded. Thanks . Now I'm learning windmills, and going to keep bboying :P. Thanks for all your advice xD

[MattRT]

lets c a video!!